Comments Thread For: Rocky Marciano's Son Reacts To Mayweather's 49-0 Win

[El-blanco]

I'm comparing their statistics and accomplishments.

I wouldn't usually but it was brought up.

It doesn't need to go any further than the fact that Mayweather's resume is miles better than Marciano's.

Marciano has about 4 or 5 good wins, if that.

Same with Floyd. His best wins are over guys who were past it, sound familiar? Neither guy beat any great fighter who was in their prime. You think Floyd has better wins because you give credence to the ******ity you mentioned above regarding all the "champions" he fought. That's why you think Floyd's resume is better, not because those guys are exceptional fighters, but because they're "champions." The reality is they're just good fighters you'd find in any era and exactly the type of opponent rock beat. The difference being they aren't "champions."

You can't even compare their accomplishments, they fought in totally different eras and in different divisions. This is an abstract discussion that can never be proven.

[IronDanHamza]

Same with Floyd. His best wins are over guys who were past it, sound familiar? Neither guy beat any great fighter who was in their prime. You think Floyd has better wins because you give credence to the ******ity you mentioned above regarding all the "champions" he fought. That's why you think Floyd's resume is better, not because those guys are exceptional fighters, but because they're "champions." The reality is they're just good fighters you'd find in any era and exactly the type of opponent rock beat. The difference being they aren't "champions."

You can't even compare their accomplishments, they fought in totally different eras and in different divisions. This is an abstract discussion that can never be proven.

No not really.

Floyd has way more than 5 good wins.

How many ranked fighters did Marciano beat? Barely any.

His resume is better. That is very obvious.

[jimmy27]

why is hockey his sport?

[jimmy27]

Watch golf or hockey, they might cater more to ur demographic..scratch golf(we all know who yhe greatest golfer is..hockey might be ur sport, man. Good luck.

why is hockey his sport?

[ironmike2012]

This is like comparing apples to oranges.
Both had great careers, but Floyd was born into a boxing family, went to the Olympics and signed with Top Rank (known for developing fighters the right way).
Rocky on the other hand, started late as a fighter. The first gym he went to told him to quit before he gets hurt. Also Rocky wasn't groomed to be "great". He fought his way up the heavyweight ladder. 49-0 43KO in 7 years, in the heavyweight division.
Floyd has avoided a lot of fighters he could have fought between the weight classes he was in. 130-154, could have fought Mosley (prime), Kostya Tszyu, Cotto (140-147, before Margarito and Pacman destroyed him), Paul Williams, Margarito, Sergio Williams, Manny (09-11 version) and others. If Floyd's career wasn't hand picked carefully, he would have lost to someone (Castillo and Maidana gave him problems, so that should tell you something) Rocky ducked no one.
So it depends on what you like to decide which is better. KO artist who beat the entire division or boxer who has carefully moved thru the weight classes and retired to avoid a hot division.
Floyd fought longer, but a heavyweight that fought like Rocky would not last 20 years, but he didn't have to, he fought more exciting rounds than Floyd.
I can guarantee that Rocky's fights have more replay value, I fell asleep both times I watch the Manny fight, stopped watching the replay after I woke up. I Never fell asleep during any fight besides that one (Canelo fight was boring also).

[nycsmooth]

Total BS 2. try& compare back 4 generations...

[UNBIASED BOXING]

In a few years, Roman Gonzales will have the record anyways.

So let's all calm down.

[DoubleStandar]

Ricardo "Finito" Lopez retired with a record of 51-0-1(there is a draw so probably that won't count) & Chavez Sr went 87-0 before getting a draw against Whitaker & didn't retire undefeated.

Chavez Sr fought a bunch of bums in his first 60 fights or so. He faced like 20 guys who were making their debuts.

Chavez SR garbage record

- First 6 fighters he faced were making their debut
- Out of the First 20 10 were making their debut
- His first 40 opponents had a combined record of 236 wins and 200 losses.
- Never faced an unbeaten fighter out side of the guys that debuted against him

[billeau2]

The only similarity is they are both 49-0.

Mayweather beat better fighters. Clearly has a much better resume.

Mayweather's beaten way more top ranked fighters.

Mayweather's beaten way more World Champions.

Mayweather's won way more world titles, in 5 different divisions.

Mayweather is 26-0 in World title fights Marciano is 7-0 in world title fights.

How many good wins does Maricano even have? Like 3? 4?

They are not comparable.

And Roy Jones also never fought Micheal Nunn.

Lol sorry got jones and toney mixed up my bad.

If you look at the names on marciano's resume they are in the same category as the names in Floyd's.... Louis, Charles, Walcott, Moore. So there is not a difference in class of fighter.

World championships are always relative to who is the champion...climbing up to fight the likes of Baldimore does not make one distinguished on this account...besides a heavyweight cannot fight in multiple divisions so on this point there is no great advantage for Mayweather...

Categories like world champions, are relative...If you want to talk about ranking who has mayweather beat that puts him out of the stratosphere of Marciano?

If you want to talk about when marciano fought the likes of Moore, Charles, Louis and Walcott, well thats where Mayweather deciding when to fight certain fighters he fought comes into play...you remember that old tune that goes something like You say ____ and I say____?

Well piano player hit it:

You say Louis I say an old de la Hoya... you say Walcott I say a shot Shane....and on we can go...

I am talking strictly about the quality of wins and the record held....If we are talking about who is a better fighter thats different. But imo both guys fought similar levels of opposition and both guys have some things that went their way regarding when they fought the better fighters they beat.

[joseph5620]

Floyd never beat an ATG fighter in his prime. So when one considers the feat of beating Charles...an ATG, it means a lot here. And Marciano never had a tremendous physical advantage over any of the men he fought, including Charles.

So I would put Floyd and Marciano as equal in there accomplishment. I don't subsribe to the heavyweight division being superior by default unless there were some incredibly strong punchers in the division, and in marciano's case all the strong punchers were past it.

Are you really going to pretend Charles was in his prime when Marciano beat him?