Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Eff Pandas]

I have a question, were you defending Pacquiao when he was being attacked and slandered for years by Floyd and his fans of being on PEDS?

Did you defend him like you are defending Floyd in these IV threads?

Idk that I was very active on boxing forums at that time. But I'm a fan of fighters first & foremost so I can't imagine I wouldn't have been saying Floyd fans were equally ******ed as the Manny fans now if I had been active online at the time. I'm not a fan of either of these guys' fanboys. Fanboys of virtually any fighter are f#cking ******.

[Lester Tutor]

Major cover up

Hours before Manny Pacquiao entered the ring to fight Floyd Mayweather, his request to be injected with Toradol (a legal substance) to ease the pain caused by a torn rotator cuff was denied by the Nevada State Athletic Commission because the request was not made in a timely manner. In explaining the NSAC’s decision, commission chairman Francisco Aguilar told the media, “There is a process. And when you try to screw with the process, it's not going to work for you.”

USADA and Mayweather appear to have screwed with the process. Let’s see if it works for them in the end.

As Winston Churchill once proclaimed, “The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. Ignorance may deride it. But in the end, there it is.”

People like to add X and Y variables after the fact. WTF!? Everybody's TRYING to justify the infamous shoulder injury that was NEVER mentioned to the commission nor reported on the medical waiver.

Why does every Top Rank have to contextualize Hauser? They don't even know what time it is. Maybe I'm naïve in thinking people truly don't understand politics.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

All that reading ..... you must be dehydrated like Floyd. Take a break and drink up. You don't want to be dehydrated to the point that you need an IV.

lmaooooooo!!!!!

[hectari]

Saline and plasma transfusions: Injections of plasma (a pale, yellow liquid that makes up a large part of blood) and saline are outlawed because of their usefulness in masking blood transfusions and EPO violations. Armstrong's doctors are alleged to have closely monitored his hematocrit levels to stay a step ahead of testing. Jonathan Vaughters, a former Armstrong teammate, alleges that a team doctor once smuggled a bag of saline directly past an International Cycling Union tester, inside his raincoat, and delivered it to Armstrong just in time to thwart an EPO test.

[GTTofAK]

How do you beat the test. That depends on which aspect of the test. If you are taking testosterone you need to take epitestosterone in order to keep you T/E ratio from going over the limit. However, occasionally an athlete will take too much epitestosterone and their T/E ratio will be too low.

[maguirre]

Hauser as usual is INCORRECT. It is actually still on USADA's website. Hauser just didn't do his homework enough.

So, did they change it or what, and finally put something close to the truth? Didn't you see any discrepancy there? Your hero got tested six times and Mosley 8 times. Blood was taken twice from your idol and Mosley 4 times. Why?

Strange part was the first blood taken was more than two weeks before the fight.

[MDPopescu]

when and if Floyd is ever caugh or admits to cheating we will then know he cheated, all we have now is questioning why he needed so much vitamin c just like we question why pac man refused testing, we can all have our speculations and throw out out theories but to our knowledge none of them have failed a test or was caught cheating. again.. get over it!

get over it? I'll get over it...
"to our knowledge none of them have failed a test or was caught cheating"?

... Well, Lance Armstrong also didn't fail testing for ten years... but, but, but...

[Lester Tutor]

How do you beat the test. That depends on which aspect of the test. If you are taking testosterone you need to take epitestosterone in order to keep you T/E ratio from going over the limit. However, occasionally an athlete will take too much epitestosterone and their T/E ratio will be too low.

So where is your plot?

[DeadLikeMe]

How do you beat the test. That depends on which aspect of the test. If you are taking testosterone you need to take epitestosterone in order to keep you T/E ratio from going over the limit. However, occasionally an athlete will take too much epitestosterone and their T/E ratio will be too low.

So anyone who tests within WADA's acceptable norms is masking or only the people who beat Manny?

[ADP02]

You don't even know what you are complaining about, son. Armstrong had confessed about blood doping, and in those early days they were not checking for EPOs like they do today. Hence, May-Pac; EPO, HGH, CIR. How much more bonafide anti doping tests do you need, especially from 2015 WADA accredited protocols?

Every ****** excuse as usual. "If its not that it's gotta be this," etc.

Give it a rest. The Gold medal goes to anyone that can prove masking EPO, CIR, and HGH from May 1st to May 2nd. That means a time frame of day when the blood is most CONCENTRATED from any theorized illegal substance would be easily detected. Again, you guys just being suckered into generalized out of context time framing.

How much empiricial proof has Hauser, in one paragraph, at least given a theory of how Mayweather or Pac or ay boxer do it within a day? You can't!

Get some rest yall.

Floyd did out in the open what Lance Armstrong did with his doctors in hiding, for example. How convenient. So it does not matter what year it is when Floyd/USADA use TUEs to opt out of what is on the prohibited list. Right?

Still, your statement is not accurate. We do not know what Floyd is doing exactly. He is not going to tell us but we do know for a fact that on several occasions, he has delayed testing 5-7 hours long. So it may be the delay that Floyd wanted or he was masking or a combination.

You say its 2015, so testing has improved. In some ways yes but in some ways no. Studies have found that 1-2% got caught before and the stat still holds true in 2015.

So for example EPO. Why was it used back then? Because they didn't have a test for it. So to say, they can be doing something else that is not detectable or even listed as prohibited. Also, as stated before, they can use EPO or other drugs when you have experience with the current protocol. Floyd has that experience. He has a very good idea of when USADA comes to test. Only during a short window during training and not much testing gets done close to the fight. Especially with blood. So athletes can microdose so that they can't get caught. If USADA comes unexpectedly sooner, delay as much as you can as FLoyd did.



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