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    Originally posted by hardvibes View Post
    Slip knows he repeatedly failed to provide proof (and by proof I mean official documents of course, certainly not words). That's why he's going ape**** with anything he can.



    Stay on topic.
    Provide the proof.
    You noticed aye..

    And that is why this desperate individual has nothing left to offer, but to go on full ****** mode hehehe.. As you can see.

    Failure after failure has eaten him up and ruined his sanity. But he is now in a step towards salvation. He has denounced Floyd as his hero and savior. He will come to grips with reality. It's only a matter of time when he realize Silver surfer is a comic book character and Floyd didn't really fight big show for real.

    It's just a matter of time now. Slip stream will get better. Pray for him.

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      Typhoon hits Philippines last week. 56 die.
      Yet we argue over **** that don't matter.

      We are distracted by the media to the point where nothing else matters.
      Syria etc.

      I belong to Hands on japan. an NPO doing work in the Phillipines. Find an NPO and help out. Then come back and keep talking crap.
      Best Regards, Zaroku

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        Originally posted by IR0NFIST View Post
        Hmm let's see, you're a 50 year old man with a cartoon avatar who's expressed a strange desire to slap another person with your d1ck. Those seem a lot like the characteristics and behavioral indicators one would expect from a pedophile. Just because you can pass a Federal background check doesn't necessarily mean you're innocent, it could also mean that you were simply never caught.

        (Btw, you might want to remove the words "Free Candy" off the side of your van before selling it though. Just my two cents.)
        That gave me shivers. I can swear your profiling matches slip stream.. Gave me goosebumps. Add a hot tub express to go with the van and a half naked Beiber. That's spot on man lmao

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          An expert mentioned, the best method for rehydrating a moderately dehydrated athlete is to give him water and electrolytes.

          we can deem his behavior involving his IV use highly su****ious. his treatment is similar to the methods used by lance armstrong to mask his PED use. you don't give 750 ML of saline to a moderately dehydrated athlete. you hand him a glass of water, or a pedialite, or some gatorade mixed with water, or all three.

          Why was Floyd severely dehydrated to the point he cannot drink from a bottle or a glass?

          Yet he actually can and did??



          and yet in the man's own mouth

          Floyd says: "I never had a problem making 147lbs"

          So why was he severely dehydrated?
          Last edited by Spoon23; 10-23-2015, 03:15 AM.

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            Originally posted by hardvibes View Post
            Slip knows he repeatedly failed to provide proof (and by proof I mean official documents of course, certainly not words). That's why he's going ape**** with anything he can.



            Stay on topic.
            Provide the proof.
            Not how American jurisprudence works my friend. I/We need to provide nothing. Zero, zilch, nada, nothing. Nothing.

            You who seek some form of relief, the burden is on to present your facts. You need to bring your best evidence, with proper chains of custody. I/We need to provide nothing.

            I am fine with the decision the NSAC reached, & the three judges who awarded Floyd his decision.

            The pumpkin headed goblin got cloned by Floyd.

            Roach,, don't ask Preddy what he thought. Ployd won.

            Personally the ex post facto TUE sucks, but I have stated this again and again.

            Best Regards,
            Zaroku
            Last edited by Zaroku; 10-23-2015, 04:20 AM.

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              Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
              An expert mentioned, the best method for rehydrating a moderately dehydrated athlete is to give him water and electrolytes.

              we can deem his behavior involving his IV use highly su****ious. his treatment is similar to the methods used by lance armstrong to mask his PED use. you don't give 750 ML of saline to a moderately dehydrated athlete. you hand him a glass of water, or a pedialite, or some gatorade mixed with water, or all three.

              Why was Floyd severely dehydrated to the point he cannot drink from a bottle or a glass?

              Yet he actually can and did??



              and yet in the man's own mouth

              Floyd says: "I never had a problem making 147lbs"

              So why was he severely dehydrated?
              It was what, about the 200th page, many years ago in this thread, that we had already covered how Lance Armstrong's ''Blood Doping'' of EPO boosting has no relation to Floyd Mayweather Jr. During a time when EPO wasn't even detected.

              Yes, geniuses here for more than 300 plus pages, when challenged to provide some plot how to ''mask'' an illegal substance in 750ml overnight, still have not provided ONE sentence over a span of continous pages....yes, the Top Rank saviors have reached to the stars!

              Here, since none of you clowns can't even use the internet, I'll do you a favor since none of you had the balls to do so...Here's the WADA challenge for you guys for a 24hr test challenge for May 1st - May 2nd negative test results.

              __________________________________________________ ___

              Detection of blood doping (because of Lance Armstrong cherry picking):

              Detection for ****logous Blood Doping

              In 2004, a test for detection allogeneic/****logous blood transfusion doping was implemented. Flow Cytometry is the method of choice. By examining markers on the surface of blood cells, the method can determine whether blood from more than one person is present in an athlete’s circulation. The test utilizes 12 antisera directed against the blood group antigens, obtained from donor plasma. The antigens are labeled with secondary antibodies, which are conjugated with phycoerythrin to label IgG or IgM-coated RBCs and enhance the detection by flow cytometry [2][25] The flow cytometry is able to detect minor variance in blood group antigens. The assessment was able to distinguish the blood of subjects who had earlier received at least one unit of allogeneic blood.[25] This technique is able to detect small (<5%) populations of cells that are antigenically distinct from an individual’s own RBCs.[25]

              Detection for Autologous Blood doping[edit]
              Autologous blood doping detection is done indirectly via CO rebreathing technique to measure the nonphysiologic increases in Hb mass. The principle of CO rebreathing method used currently requires an O2-CO gas mixture inhalation for about 10-15mins.[26] By measuring the difference in carboxyhemoglobin concentration (HbCO) before and after rebreathing, the volume of CO and the binding capacity of Hb for CO ( 1.39ml g-1), total Hb mass can be calculated.[26] This detection method is problematic for an athlete as it is not desirable to breathe in CO shortly before a competition, which may potentially affect their performances.

              Detection of Blood Hemoglobin-based Oxygen Carrier[edit]
              Detection method for Hemoglobin-based oxygen carriers (i.e. Oxyglobulin® ) is done in four separate steps. Step one involves the elimination of abundance proteins in the blood samples by immunodepletion (i.e. Proteo Prep ® 20 plasma immunodepletion kit).[27] This process ensures that other proteins (i.e. albumin and immunoglobulin) do not interfere with capillary electrophoresis (CE) separation by changing the ionization. Second step, CE separation is done under certain condition, in this case background electrolyte consisting of ammonium formate (75mM at pH 9.5) in order to provide sufficient resolution between HBOC and Hb.[27] Third step, UV/Vis detection was performed at 415 nm to selectively detect HBOC and HB. Fourth step, Time-of-flight (TOF) or Mass spectrometer(MS) allowed increase accuracy in selectivity between hemoproteins and other proteins and definite determination of HBOC uptake.[28] The detection limits for CE-UV/Vis at 415 nm and CE-ESI-TOF/MS results to be 0.20 and 0.45g/dL for plasma respectively.

              Detection of Cobalt Concentration by Utilizing the Biokinetic Model
              Co can be detected by laboratory blood analysis if the intake amount is greater than 400 μg per day. As the whole blood concentration is greater than 1μg/L and the urinary concentration is greater than 10μg/L after at least 10 days of administration. The dose, which increases the red blood cell production to approximately 16%-21%, is about 68 mg Co per day for at least 10 days of oral administration. The predicted whole blood concentration of Co exceeds 200μg/L 2 hr after the last intake and the average urine concentrations of Co exceed 3000 μg/L within 24 hr of intake. A study was carried out where 23 subjects were to take 900 μg per day in the form of CoCl2 for 10 days. The model predictions were then compared to the study. The result shows that the model prediction for blood and urine are between the median concentration of the male and female groups, which indicate the model predictions sufficiently represent the test population as a whole.

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                Jibber jabber lol

                Answer these questions and you vindicate Floyd. The burden of truth is to you Floyd fans. the burden to bring out the proof to save your hero who last time I checked in the eyes of the public is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Time to save your hero.answer the hard questions.


                Where are the the official documents as hint/proof that he was badly dehydrated and really needed the 750mL IV?

                1) What exactly was Mayweather’s “physical condition”?

                2) What was the medical justification that led to the decision that an onsite IV was the appropriate treatment?

                3) Who made the determination that the IV was medically necessary? A doping control officer can’t make that determination.

                4) Who called the paramedic?

                5) Which medical service did the paramedic come from?

                6) Where is the full paramedic report of the incident?

                7) Did USADA independently analyze the solution that was administered to Mayweather by IV? Or did it take the word of Mayweather’s camp that it was saline and vitamins?

                8) Who “approved” the IV procedure on site?

                9) What was the medical justification and supporting data that led to USADA granting a retroactive the****utic use exemption for an otherwise prohibited IV procedure?

                10) Who at USADA made the decision to grant Mayweather a retroactive the****utic use exemption eighteen days after the fight?

                11) If the procedure was “approved on site,” why did Mayweather need to apply for and receive a the****utic use exemption almost three weeks later?

                12) USADA reported to the Nevada State Athletic Commission that the last blood sample it took from Mayweather prior to the fight was on April 21. Shouldn’t USADA have taken samples on May 1, immediately prior to and after administration of the IV?

                13) On how many previous occasions has Mayweather received an IV infusion after the weigh-in for one of his fights?

                14) If such infusions did in fact occur, was he given a the****utic use exemption in each instance?

                15) And at the risk of sounding simplistic: If Mayweather was dehydrated, why didn't he simply drink several glasses of water after the weigh-in to remedy the problem?
                The answer to the last question is that, as earlier noted, the available evidence strongly suggests that Mayweather was not dehydrated. And certainly not dehydrated enough to need an IV infusion equal to roughly 16 percent of his total blood volume.
                Last edited by Spoon23; 10-23-2015, 05:30 AM.

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                  Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
                  Jibber jabber lol

                  Answer these questions and you vindicate Floyd.


                  Where are the the official documents as hint/proof that he was badly dehydrated and really needed the 750mL IV?

                  1) What exactly was Mayweather’s “physical condition”?

                  2) What was the medical justification that led to the decision that an onsite IV was the appropriate treatment?

                  3) Who made the determination that the IV was medically necessary? A doping control officer can’t make that determination.

                  4) Who called the paramedic?

                  5) Which medical service did the paramedic come from?

                  6) Where is the full paramedic report of the incident?

                  7) Did USADA independently analyze the solution that was administered to Mayweather by IV? Or did it take the word of Mayweather’s camp that it was saline and vitamins?

                  8) Who “approved” the IV procedure on site?

                  9) What was the medical justification and supporting data that led to USADA granting a retroactive the****utic use exemption for an otherwise prohibited IV procedure?

                  10) Who at USADA made the decision to grant Mayweather a retroactive the****utic use exemption eighteen days after the fight?

                  11) If the procedure was “approved on site,” why did Mayweather need to apply for and receive a the****utic use exemption almost three weeks later?

                  12) USADA reported to the Nevada State Athletic Commission that the last blood sample it took from Mayweather prior to the fight was on April 21. Shouldn’t USADA have taken samples on May 1, immediately prior to and after administration of the IV?

                  13) On how many previous occasions has Mayweather received an IV infusion after the weigh-in for one of his fights?

                  14) If such infusions did in fact occur, was he given a the****utic use exemption in each instance?

                  15) And at the risk of sounding simplistic: If Mayweather was dehydrated, why didn't he simply drink several glasses of water after the weigh-in to remedy the problem?
                  The answer to the last question is that, as earlier noted, the available evidence strongly suggests that Mayweather was not dehydrated. And certainly not dehydrated enough to need an IV infusion equal to roughly 16 percent of his total blood volume.
                  The capacity is not there to provide a scenario how to mask huh! I love it!

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                    Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
                    Typhoon hits Philippines last week. 56 die.
                    Yet we argue over **** that don't matter.

                    We are distracted by the media to the point where nothing else matters.
                    Syria etc.

                    I belong to Hands on japan. an NPO doing work in the Phillipines. Find an NPO and help out. Then come back and keep talking crap.
                    Best Regards, Zaroku
                    Stay on topic!! Unless the typhoon was started because of a leak in Mayweather's iv bag it is of no concern to the truth crusaders.

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                      Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
                      The capacity is not there to provide a scenario how to mask huh! I love it!
                      Answer these questions and you vindicate Floyd. The burden of truth is to you Floyd fans. The burden to bring out the proof to save your hero who last time I checked in the eyes of the public is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Time to save your hero. Answer the hard questions.

                      Time to save your tainted hero. The damage has been done evident of how people feel about about him and their perception of him being a cheater. Evident by the poll.

                      Now we wait till the time you floyd fans are witty enough to disprove it by answering those questions so you can save the presumed cheater. It's simple.
                      Last edited by Spoon23; 10-23-2015, 09:55 AM.

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