Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[radioraheem]

If medical science says it is abnormally low, why didn't WADA, USADA or NSAC think so? Why aren't experts in these fields up in arms about Floyd's "extremely low" levels? Is it because there's nothing there?

The other funny thing is, USADA has a biological passport for Floyd Mayweather. And yet, still there's nothing.

[radioraheem]

So we can see here that Floyd is orally rehydrating. The commission doctor checked both Manny and Floyd at the weigh in for health and for signs of dehydration. Nothing noted. Floyd even had a heathy blood pressure reading that was also a sign of not being dehydrated. The report is even provided with a snapshot to show validity. This all is proof that Floyd was not dehydrated at the weigh in.

Now from the time he left the weigh in to the time he received the IV, he all of a sudden was in the state of severe dehydration, thus requesting the IV.

What on earth could he have done in that span of time? Did he run back to his house from the weigh in? Maybe he hit the gym for one final workout? All we know is he was hydrated, than severely dehydrated per Floyd and Ellerbe's admission.

USADA and Paramedics came to his house prior to the weigh-in. Sorry to break that news to you. USADA specifically was at his home by 1:45pm. Really sorry to say this.

[ADP02]

Yeah, so therefore, all boxers are guilty. That's pretty much what all you ''deflectors'' are saying. Without any proof you can't point your finger at someone in boxing and not point the other way. Logic doesn't work that way my friends.

Either you guys provide a plot of how Floyd could mask something in 750ml, hence the IV thread, and pass CIR, EPO, and HGH... then let's chat. Again, don't state details without providing a plot! You can't state why Floyd doesn't do whatever within a certain number of hours without providing a specific way to ''mask'' something in drug testing.

Since you guys are all theory, and I made a badass thread about WADA and Manny weeks ago...

Again, I ask, why didn't Top Rank want WADA style testing back in the first negotiations?! If boxing is so ''corrupt'' you'd think such a question makes perfect sense.

You want the TRUTH!? Nobody in the boxing community thought WADA style protocols would come into affect in this sport. WADA doesn't evolve around just boxing! You guys think about that for a while and come back with intelligent answers or plots or something. If not, yall just being recorded on candid camera.

I did provide you enough information. Some people still trying to do what Lance and company did but guess what? That is enough to cause not only su****ion but also gets you suspended as it is like saying that you avoided testing due to you taking PEDs. Yes, even with no proof of a positive test!

"The best way of not testing positive in this period is not to be tested. Athletes give their whereabouts for one hour of each day in advance. Athletes have been known to give incorrect addresses to avoid testers or to simply hide if they know they are at risk.
There is a rule that three missed tests over 18 months constitutes a doping offence. That gives you one or two chances to avoid testing and blame logistics or disorganisation, a risk some athletes are willing to take. It was this rule that led to Olympic and World 400m champion Christine Ohuruogu serving a one-year suspension though she has always vehemently denied any wrongdoing."


Also, you wanted ways that it can be by-passed in 2015. Well, I gave you several. Here is a quote if you think I'm making it up:
"The athlete biological passport has had successes and some cyclists and athletes have been suspended through its use. But it has struggled to catch those using microdosing - taking small regular doses of drugs like EPO rather than single large doses."

[radioraheem]

I did provide you enough information. Some people still trying to do what Lance and company did but guess what? That is enough to cause not only su****ion but also gets you suspended as it is like saying that you avoided testing due to you taking PEDs. Yes, even with no proof of a positive test!

"The best way of not testing positive in this period is not to be tested. Athletes give their whereabouts for one hour of each day in advance. Athletes have been known to give incorrect addresses to avoid testers or to simply hide if they know they are at risk.
There is a rule that three missed tests over 18 months constitutes a doping offence. That gives you one or two chances to avoid testing and blame logistics or disorganisation, a risk some athletes are willing to take. It was this rule that led to Olympic and World 400m champion Christine Ohuruogu serving a one-year suspension though she has always vehemently denied any wrongdoing."


Also, you wanted ways that it can be by-passed in 2015. Well, I gave you several. Here is a quote if you think I'm making it up:
"The athlete biological passport has had successes and some cyclists and athletes have been suspended through its use. But it has struggled to catch those using microdosing - taking small regular doses of drugs like EPO rather than single large doses."

You are still reaching, I mean reaching!

Not even Victor Conte believes in your theory. He's far more of an expert regarding PEDs than you are, and even he isn't buying into that. He went on record that if Mayweather is cheating, it is through an entirely different scenario. And that scenario, you guys still have failed to bring up even though he already publicly revealed what he thinks Mayweather MIGHT be doing if he's cheating.

[Lester Tutor]

If medical science says it is abnormally low, why didn't WADA, USADA or NSAC think so? Why aren't experts in these fields up in arms about Floyd's "extremely low" levels? Is it because there's nothing there?

In the court room, the lawyers against TMT have 1 notebook ready to convince the jury... and the ''other lawyers'' dressed as mascots against Top Rank have a stack of books reaching the ceiling. Arum runs out of the room! Pac sits dumbfounded reciting Proverbs 12:22, Koncz is wearing a devil suit. Roach is just...just Roach.

[hugh grant]

Was Floyds urine too dark yellow, which made Floyd think he was dehydrated?
Floyd will always try get advantages and wont ever have an off night, which isn't natural as well. How can you go a whole career without having an off night? Floyd will do anything to get an advantage and if that means IV fluids so be it. IV fluids to flush his system more like it.

Without those IV fluids Floyd would have lost to Pac. How many great boxers in the past probably lost a fight because they just didn't have it on the day. Ricky Hatton said he knew before he fought Pac his stamina and strength didn't seem to be there! How come Floyd always is 100% and never any issues of not being able to perform on the day. That he trains like a demon is not an excuse, because you can train religiously but its just not your day come fight night. Floyd hasn't got those has he, not with his IV Fluids.

[lacson]

Good for Thomas Hauser in bringing this up again. He needs to keep bringing it up every couple of weeks.

It seems like the people involved, Mayweather, USADA, NSAC are all keeping quiet, hoping it would just all silently go away.

We know the truth. Facts all point to only one possible explanation why he took an IV of close to 1 liter into his blood. USADA also knew what was going on and they covered it up. USADA had to know because that's what they do for a living. If idiots like us can figure it out, they as professionals for sure knew and knows what really is going on.

[North Star]

USADA and Paramedics came to his house prior to the weigh-in. Sorry to break that news to you. USADA specifically was at his home by 1:45pm. Really sorry to say this.

It would serve you better to read the entire paragraph.

A doping control officer arrived at Mayweather’s home at approximately 1:45 PM on the day of the weigh-in for Mayweather-Pacquiao to collect a urine sample. As previously noted, USADA’s “Detailed Correction?does not say that Mayweather was dehydrated. It references an unspecified “physical condition?and says that he “provided partial urine samples to USADA both prior to and following the infusion [which was after the weigh-in].?USADA did not state with greater specificity when the first partial urine sample was provided.

[radioraheem]

It would serve you better to read the entire paragraph.

A doping control officer arrived at Mayweather’s home at approximately 1:45 PM on the day of the weigh-in for Mayweather-Pacquiao to collect a urine sample. As previously noted, USADA’s “Detailed Correction?does not say that Mayweather was dehydrated. It references an unspecified “physical condition?and says that he “provided partial urine samples to USADA both prior to and following the infusion [which was after the weigh-in].?USADA did not state with greater specificity when the first partial urine sample was provided.

Yes, because USADA can't go on record stating his specific medical condition. That medical info is confidential. And USADA did say in that same PDF that they took the first urine sample BEFORE the IV and again AFTER the IV. Also keep in mind, Retroactive TUE is usually given for emergencies. Sorry about all of this!

[radioraheem]

It would serve you better to read the entire paragraph.

A doping control officer arrived at Mayweather’s home at approximately 1:45 PM on the day of the weigh-in for Mayweather-Pacquiao to collect a urine sample. As previously noted, USADA’s “Detailed Correction?does not say that Mayweather was dehydrated. It references an unspecified “physical condition?and says that he “provided partial urine samples to USADA both prior to and following the infusion [which was after the weigh-in].?USADA did not state with greater specificity when the first partial urine sample was provided.

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