Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[North Star]

They most definitely do.

But the article makes even more damning points than that tbh.

It definitely does. I was just pointing out some of the things that can be easily defended to correct any error that Hauser made. But as others have noted here, there is no reason to mount a defense to this, among the many other accusations.

[GTTofAK]

So you're saying Armstrong's samples in his comeback never tested positive? He didn't come back for USPS. He also failed four drug tests in 1999.

I see you are goggling like crazy. There was one "positive" test in 1999 that was thrown out. That test had absolutely nothing to do with his ultimate banning.

Furthermore to your original point about the samples being destroyed. We are way past the point that a reasonable person knows or should know that a potential legal case is coming. As such destroying the samples would be obstruction of justice.

[hectari]

Floyd needs to rematch Pac as there is too much controversy. THe reality is Floyd wouldn't have beat Pac if it were not for the IV fluids.

Using IV fluids isn't natural because if it was I in my lifetime would have used them. So FLoyd is cheating whatever way you look at it. Floyd got his training wrong this time if he was dehydrated. How many boxers have lost because they were dehydrated.?
So lets say Pac beat FLoyd, but Floyd can use the excuse he was dehydrated.

Floyd will not rematch Pacquiao

If he was cheating he will no longer be allowed to use whatever stuff he used and he will no longer be confident going into the ring and will have slower reflexes.

After he fought Pacquiao he told someone if he hit me that hard with one good arm imagine him with two?

Meaning if Pac was one hundred percent with a long camp to get in shape and actually sparr more rounds, he might be more dangerous.

Floyd lacks confidence in his skill, a person of skill and a warrior wants teh guys who are teh toughest, instead he cries to remove Maidana gloves last minute, and than has a spy in Pacquiaso camp and fights Pac when he is shell of himself and no longer the ferocious dynamo.

[hectari]

It is also interesting to note that a paramedic was called to administer the IV. Hauser claims no records were found indicating a paramedic was sent and on site. That should be easy to defend by Floyd's team IMO. I'm sure EMT units have some type of recording of dates, names, and vehicles that were sent to the scene.

All they have to do is get a security tape to see if a EMT came to his gated community, they have security video just like the one where Floyd was yelling at the gate security before going home, any vehicle that passes there will be recorded.

[GTTofAK]

The after test is only relevant in that it matches all the other negative tests. So it comes down to if you are a daggumite and decides this means he was cheating all along.

Obviously with Floyd anything is possible. Obviously with Hauser everything is taken with a grain of salt.

What don't you get you ****ing moron. There was no before test. USADA said point blank that Floyd couldn't provide a significant sample. They use some clever word games to make ****** people like yourself think that they tested him both before and after but that isn't really what they say.

All they really say is that after Mayweather took the banned PED masking IV his test came up negative.

Well no ****!

[Vadrigar.]

just like refusing testing will never go away, its just something the fans of the other guy will always hold over the others head, it will go no further... but yes one should question why he used so much just like one should question pac refused testing. the hauser guy isn't even calling Floyd a cheater hes just questioning meanwhile all these posters are throwing out ped cheat, steroids etc....my thing is there has been this tacky back n forth for years and now that the fight happened and pac lost pac fans are trying to keep it going. let it go.

He wasn't dehydrated so there's only one other reason why he used 750ml.

[ADP02]

move on guys its over and this is played out

Floyd fans line has never changed.

"Please, stop it, stop it ..... "

From DAY #1, deflecting at all costs.

[GTTofAK]

All they have to do is get a security tape to see if a EMT came to his gated community, they have security video just like the one where Floyd was yelling at the gate security before going home, any vehicle that passes there will be recorded.

But what EMT? Was it a paramedic from a real Hospital or was it one of these rich people only get what ever your want special service companies?

If there was an EMT there is good reason USADA is not giving the name of the company. There are plenty of such shady services especially in Vegas.

[DeadLikeMe]

I see you are goggling like crazy. There was one "positive" test in 1999 that was thrown out. That test had absolutely nothing to do with his ultimate banning.

Furthermore to your original point about the samples being destroyed. We are way past the point that a reasonable person knows or should know that a potential legal case is coming. As such destroying the samples would be obstruction of justice.

So the truth contradicts your point and now youre backtracking. Spoken like a truly deluded person who prays every night Manny's failure gets erased.

[GTTofAK]

So the truth contradicts your point and now youre backtracking.

I'm not backtracking at all. You are the one back tracking.

"When he did his comeback he did end up with failed samples. That's how the whole lid blew off the story. "

Now you have goggled and found that there was a 99 sample that was thrown out. Of course that doesn't at all jive with what you said but hey close enough.

My point still stands. Armstrong never tested positive, the 99 sample was thrown out, it was his friends who gave him up to federal investigators not a positive drug test that sunk him.