Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[MurkaMan]

yes. i am scared of clowns so i ran off

Yea exactly, you ran df off! Your weak! Lol

[The Big Dunn]

yes they said it shouldn't have been allowed. they said usada wasn't authorized to do that. hence he cheated. what do you call breaking the rules of drug testing? what would happen to anyone else who broke the rules?

the iv is evidence. its not legal to do that. wow you are the ultimate fan. you keep talking in circles and avoiding the real issue which is he did something illegal. you can't dispute that. just because hes going to get away with it because of corruption doesn't mean he wasn't guilty because he was guilty. its a fact. the problem is that they aren't punishing him for doing something illegal. floyd fans pretended to be drug testing crusaders then instantly fell apart when floyd got caught which exposes how full of crap they are. you have no credibility because anything you say you might now say the opposite depending on what your fav fighter does in the future. you are just a puppet. oh floyd says drug testing is something super important i'm on board go floyd! oh floyd got busted for cheating no he didn't! its hauser's fault! seriously? trying to make straw mans and ad hominem attacks just to pretend flyod didn't cheat? thats just pathetic. you know he cheated but you don't care bottom line.

USADA broke their own rules and retroactively approved Floyd's IV. I don't know what would happen in other cases, but my guess is they wouldn't get the same treatment Floyd got here.

The IV is evidence of what daggum, that he got an IV of saline and vitamins? What about the negative test both before and after the IV?

Believe what you want, come back when you have proof.

[daggum]

Who's supposed to be paying for the drug testing? I don't believe any non-fighter is paying for any drug testing that goes beyond the basic commission piss tests. I think its all coming from the fighters purse or expenses. I believe Nonito Donaire is paying for his own drug testing year round. Are his results all questionable cuz he can't get a charity version of the USADA or a WADA lab to drug test him or get a drug testing kick starter going?

its not necessarily questionable but its questionable when you pay the agency and the agency lets you break the rules as is what happened with floyd. ideally there should be an outside independent organization that isn't funded by the fighter that they are testing. in baseball and football do the football players fund the testing and have control over it? no. if they did there would be no one getting caught because they would just give themselves tue's all day long.

[North Star]

Im not making excuses, nor do I have to! Im not bias for or against the situation! Like You are!

Their was never an excuse about dehydration! I see you made that comment, as another one of your weak tricks right? Lol! The dehydration claim, was never an excuse! As I pointed out, their are millions of reasons that people get dehydrated or use IV's! Houser just refused to speak on that, in order to make an issue, out of a non-issue!

And again with the chef mess! You already knew that Floyd has always had that same chef and probably eats and has the same diet every fight! Your speaking about it as if it was the first time you heard of this! The reason you spoke about it is to say, "Its no way he ate candy and soda because he was eating healthy this camp"

Like I said prior, go away goofball! I come here to have legit discussions, not play games!

Man, you are lost here. Okay, so there are a million reasons why a person would be dehydrated. Now, how many reasons are there for someone to use an IV injection of 750 ml of saline and vitamin solution? The list dwindles down considerably to just a couple reasons.

1. Severe dehydration that requires hospitalization and notification to the commission.

2. Dilution of the blood and urine to mask PED use traces

Now, one of the responsibilities of the NSAC is to have a doctor present at weigh-ins for the very specific reason to ensure the fighters are healthy and NOT dehydrated. There was no record, noting, or even verbal indication that either fighter were not healthy and fit enough to fight.

So if Floyd was not dehydrated at the weigh-in, what did he do after to get him to the point of severe dehydration? It's an honest question. If there is nothing to hide at all, we would all be relieved to know what happened with Floyd that required a paremedic and IV.

[The Big Dunn]

yes i was pointing out how silly floyd fans are for using ad hominem while pretending there was no conflict of interest by floyd paying usada 150k to let him cheat. that just flies right over their heads and instead of focusing on that they focus on hauser who is just reporting on what happened. usada was actually involved.

floyd as the promoter paid for the testing, as all promoters are required to. How about some honesty. Of course there is a bias issue with USADA, but at least be honest about why he paid them and not pretend it was for special treatment.

BS, for years everything you said was ad hominem, but now suddenly you are against the use of such tactics. what a f#cking hypocrite.

You have decided floyd has cheated and will only pay attention to the things that support this belief.

[daggum]

USADA broke their own rules and retroactively approved Floyd's IV. I don't know what would happen in other cases, but my guess is they wouldn't get the same treatment Floyd got here.

The IV is evidence of what daggum, that he got an IV of saline and vitamins? What about the negative test both before and after the IV?

Believe what you want, come back when you have proof.

he's not allowed to do this because it effects the results of the tests he's taking so saying he never tested positive is really silly to say. its like saying so and so never had ped's in their system they only had masking agents in their system! when you cheat and hide whats in your system its illegal when it comes to drug testing. you know this. they made these rules for a reason.

[DeadLikeMe]

Did any Armstrong samples ever test positive? No. When Armstrong's team was hauled before the court and forced to testify they all spilled their guts.

Thats how Armstrong got caught,

When he did his comeback he did end up with failed samples. That's how the whole lid blew off the story. They stripped his titles prior to the comeback based on those tests and the testimony of his US Postal teammates.

[The Big Dunn]

ok hauser is biased. and i guess the nsac is too? he broke the rules. if it takes a biased guy to point that out then so be it. everyone else is biased in floyd's favor because they are letting him cheat.

Hauser has a conflict of interest because he is being paid by Floyd's competitors. Other credible journalists have questioned the credibility of what he wrote, not just floyd fans on NSB, given his errors, omissions, and who he works for.

STop acting like its just a group of floyd fans on NSB.

[daggum]

floyd as the promoter paid for the testing, as all promoters are required to. How about some honesty. Of course there is a bias issue with USADA, but at least be honest about why he paid them and not pretend it was for special treatment.

BS, for years everything you said was ad hominem, but now suddenly you are against the use of such tactics. what a f#cking hypocrite.

You have decided floyd has cheated and will only pay attention to the things that support this belief.

how did i decide? he was the one who did something illegal. jeez you are in a world of denial.

[Philantro]

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