Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Lester Tutor]

Floyd claimed that the stringent testing is what caused him to be severely dehydrated. Oddly enough, Pacquiao was subjected to the same stringent testing yet didn't seem to experience any dehydration or dark urine issues.

Where is that transcription? Is there video of it? Can you send me a link please.

[IR0NFIST]

Where is that transcription? Is there video of it? Can you send me a link please.

Notice how the look on Floyd's face changes when the reporter asks him about the IV. He momentarily couldn't understand english, didn't seem to know what saline was, and immediately started stuttering, then he deflected the question onto Ellerbe.

[radioraheem]

Floyd claimed that the stringent testing is what caused him to be severely dehydrated. Oddly enough, Pacquiao was subjected to the same stringent testing yet didn't seem to experience any dehydration or dark urine issues.

No, he did not. When Mayweather answered, he first said that his urine was very dark, extremely dark, darker than normal. And that it could have been from overworking. These were the first things that came out his mouth and it's on video.

Mayweather was also subject to the same random drug testing, and didn't feel the need to take Lidocaine, Todoral, etc. What does this mean? It's as pointless as your comment about Pacquiao not experiencing dehydration or dark urine.

[radioraheem]

Where is that transcription? Is there video of it? Can you send me a link please.

He just posted it, and the very first things that Floyd says is a far cry from what he just said. Self ownage at it's finest.

[Lester Tutor]

Notice how the look on Floyd's face changes when the reporter asks him about the IV. He momentarily couldn't understand english, didn't seem to know what saline was, and immediately started stuttering, then he deflected the question onto Ellerbe.

Do realize Fighthype is biased to TMT, if there was any insecurity from Floyd, Fighthype or Ellerbe the video wouldn't even be on the net. Plus, that's Kevin Iole giving the questions, the same guy that wrote in his article in May that both he and Pac tested negative on all counts, and more specifically, Iole was the main dude that said Floyd was tested before and after the IV!

But remember, 50ml is more than enough! Or rather, Saline was used! Oh no!

[IR0NFIST]

No, he did not. When Mayweather answered, he first said that his urine was very dark, extremely dark, darker than normal. And that it could have been from overworking. These were the first things that came out his mouth and it's on video.

Mayweather was also subject to the same random drug testing, and didn't feel the need to take Lidocaine, Todoral, etc. What does this mean? It's as pointless as your comment about Pacquiao not experiencing dehydration or dark urine.

Ellerbe clearly stated that the stringent testing factored into Floyd being dehydrated, and there was no evidence of an injury from Floyd's camp that would have suggested he required treatment with NSAIDs, so your comparison in that sense, is flawed.

[radioraheem]

Ellerbe clearly stated that the stringent testing factored into Floyd being dehydrated, and there was no evidence of an injury from Floyd's camp that would have suggested he required treatment with NSAIDs, so your comparison in that sense, is flawed.

The first thing that Ellerbe said in the video was that it was caused because Floyd works so hard, and thus got dehydrated. It was only later into the video when he also mentioned having to give samples.

The comparison is legit because in both situations your argument is pointless. You brought up your hero who lost for no good reason whatsoever.

[ADP02]

Again, you have no point because that is NOT what Mayweather or Ellerbe said. So you using blood and urine samples as the reason behind the dehydration is bogus.

Also, as usual, you say things no one said. I never said 'but it's a method not substance, so it's not part of the prohibited list.'

USADA gave him a Retroactive TUE within rules and it was not prohibited. You still seem to not understand the definition of a Retroactive TUE and the reasons it's given.

You know what "contributed to" means?

Just in case you say that I'm taking the definition out of context, here you go:

"contribute to" : to be an important factor in; help to cause:
EXAMPLE: A sudden downpour contributed to the traffic jam.



It's right in front of you and you still do not get what "contributed to" means. You are a lost case, my man.



The rest of what you said, I already explained it to you. Floyd is so special, he got his TUE. No other reason for it because it was prohibited. Remember when you said "but its a method not substance so it is not part of the prohibited list"

Well, USADA themselves said that methods are part of the prohibited list, just like I tried many times to tell you but that too, you didn't understand just like you do not understand what "contributed to" means!

Sorry but its YOU that does not understand what "contributed to" means. The definition does not come from me.

Also, you seem to misunderstand everything else as well. None of what Floyd and Ellerbe adds up to someone being dehydrated to the point where FLoyd needed an IV. You just need to admit that you are too subjective with this that your mind is all fogged up that you can't even understand what "contributed to" means even if I'm showing you the definition. That is deep ever-lasting love for your hero Floyd.

I understand what you said about TUE but unfortunately, USADA does get paid by them so it's in their interest to make sure that Floyd gets a pass.
Also, NSAC thinks otherwise depending on which contradicting statement you read from them.

I'm still waiting on that huge list of yours where USADA gave them a retroactive TUE on an IV of 750ml and that the NSAC commissions new nothing about until well after the fight. Like all other discussions we have, I'm patient and waiting ..... GO!!!

[radioraheem]

Do realize Fighthype is biased to TMT, if there was any insecurity from Floyd, Fighthype or Ellerbe the video wouldn't even be on the net. Plus, that's Kevin Iole giving the questions, the same guy that wrote in his article in May that both he and Pac tested negative on all counts, and more specifically, Iole was the main dude that said Floyd was tested before and after the IV!

But remember, 50ml is more than enough! Or rather, Saline was used! Oh no!

As I said before, he constantly owns himself with his very own links!

[radioraheem]

Sorry but its YOU that does not understand what "contributed to" means. The definition does not come from me.

Also, you seem to misunderstand everything else as well. None of what Floyd and Ellerbe adds up to someone being dehydrated to the point where FLoyd needed an IV. You just need to admit that you are too subjective with this that your mind is all fogged up that you can't even understand what "contributed to" means even if I'm showing you the definition. That is deep ever-lasting love for your hero Floyd.

I understand what you said about TUE but unfortunately, USADA does get paid by them so it's in their interest to make sure that Floyd gets a pass.
Also, NSAC thinks otherwise depending on which contradicting statement you read from them.

I'm still waiting on that huge list of yours where USADA gave them a retroactive TUE on an IV of 750ml and that the NSAC commissions new nothing about until well after the fight. Like all other discussions we have, I'm patient and waiting ..... GO!!!

Again, you got called out on your nonsense. Evidence shows that Floyd said otherwise and pointed to dark urine, and over training. Rather than giving samples. Floyd said specifically that is urine was VERY dark, extremely dark. This is indicative of severe dehydration. But you conspiracy theorists wouldn't know that.

The majority of professional boxers aren't testing through USADA, but rather through NSAC. And the majority of them rehydrate via IV after the weigh-in. Commonly throwing on anywhere between 10 lbs to 20 lbs overnight. Rehydration through IV is permissible under NSAC rules, and again, it is common and standard practice in professional boxing.

We'll be waiting for you like we are waiting for Hauser's long form reply. GO!!!