Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Rath]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are the one claiming some kind of victory because you claim Mayweather had a total of 30 minutes to take the IV and give urine, and you are also claiming that 250ml of IV fluid takes 2-4 hours.

Is this correct?

Did you verify the time frame that he gave, or did you just accept it? I'm not saying he's wrong. He seems pretty sensible since he's been owning you on every major point regarding this topic, but it's not about him right now. It's about YOU and the timeframe that you believe in.

So what information do you have to verify the timeframe? Let's start there.

I'm not deflecting. I'm aiming my response directly at your claims, but I want to know exactly what YOUR claims are first. I don't want you blaming it on anyone else when you are proven to be a clown once again.

why is it so hard for you to just reply on the issue at hand.

the issue is time frame.

if you doubt the time frame original zero presented. which by the way came from USADA themselves.

then present yours.

deflection does not work for me anymore. stik to what is the issue at hand enough of your dilly dallying

your style don't work for me LOL

[travestyny]

why is it so hard for you to just reply on the issue at hand.

the issue is time frame.

if you doubt the time frame original zero presented. which by the way came from USADA themselves.

then present yours.

deflection does not work for me anymore. stik to what is the issue at hand enough of your dilly dallying

your style don't work for me LOL

Are you slow, or what? I'm asking you about the timeframe you believe in, so how am I not replying about the issue? You are just afraid to state the circumstances you believe to me because you know you have no proof of it.

This is the time frame that I've found:

USADA's DCO notified Mayweather at his home around 1:45pm. He then stayed with him until the urine sample was completed around 8:15pm.

The weigh-in was shortly after 3pm.


Do you have anything to add to this timeframe, or no?

[Rath]

Are you slow, or what? I'm asking you about the timeframe you believe in, so how am I not replying about the issue? You are just afraid to state the circumstances you believe to me because you know you have no proof of it.

This is the time frame that I've found:

USADA's DCO notified Mayweather at his home around 1:45pm. He then stayed with him until the urine sample was completed around 8:15pm.

The weigh-in was shortly after 3pm.


Do you have anything to add to this timeframe, or no?

see how easy it it to just answer the question?

this is the same time frame original zero posted that you are trying to dispute.

read post #8223 that's my reply according to your given time frame.

now according to him Floyd was given IV 6 hours after they arrived at his home.

now do you know when was floyd become dehydrated if he was weigh in after 3pm?

[Zaroku]

Still going no where fast with this issue... Actually a non issue Fot the NSAC

[travestyny]

see how easy it it to just answer the question?

this is the same time frame original zero posted that you are trying to dispute.

read post #8223 that's my reply according to your given time frame.

now according to him Floyd was given IV 6 hours after they arrived at his home.

now do you know when was floyd become dehydrated if he was weigh in after 3pm?

To answer your question, it's clear he must have been dehydrated before the weigh-in. What do you think?

Have you verified that he was given the IV 6 hours after they arrived to his home? I just asked if YOU have any other information to add, not him.

[Rath]

To answer your question, it's clear he must have been dehydrated before the weigh-in. What do you think?

Have you verified that he was given the IV 6 hours after they arrived to his home? I just asked if YOU have any other information to add, not him.

gotcha.

if he was dehydrated before the weigh in, then why did USADA waited 6 hours for him to allow to administer IV?

i thought it was an emergency that is why IV infusion and TUE retroactively was given?

why USADA did not inform NSAC that he was dehydrated

why floyd filled up the pre fight form and signed it saying he's in tip top condition?

6 hours was the time given by a genius floyd fan like you.

i did not dispute that because i have no evidence to say otherwise.

all i have was 1:45PM (usada arrival) 2:00PM weigh in and 8:15PM USADA left floyd.


anyways i gotcha

spin that.

[tangalog2200]

gotcha.

if he was dehydrated before the weigh in, then why did USADA waited 6 hours for him to allow to administer IV?

i thought it was an emergency that is why IV infusion and TUE retroactively was given?

why USADA did not inform NSAC that he was dehydrated

why floyd filled up the pre fight form and signed it saying he's in tip top condition?

6 hours was the time given by a genius floyd fan like you.

i did not dispute that because i have no evidence to say otherwise.

all i have was 1:45PM (usada arrival) 2:00PM weigh in and 8:15PM USADA left floyd.


anyways i gotcha

spin that.

pardon me to butt in, please clarify;

weigh in starts 2pm? and finished at what time?

[Rath]

pardon me to butt in, please clarify;

weigh in starts 2pm? and finished at what time?

here is the link.



i forgot the time differential so you need to calculate it.

[original zero]

if he was dehydrated before the weigh in, then why did USADA waited 6 hours for him[b] to allow to administer IV?

This is what Spoon wrote:

"Fact: In an unannounced test, USADA, which was paid $150,000 to do drug testing for the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, caught Floyd Mayweather injecting himself with an IV the night before his fight with Pacquiao."

We know that's not true. Based on when the weigh in was, based on USADA arriving before the weigh in, based on when the post IV sample was given, we know six hours after USADA's arrival the infusion would still be taking place. So the idea that USADA walked in on Floyd already receiving an IV at 1:45 before even heading over to the weigh in is completely ludicrous.

If your interest in this matter is the pursuit of truth, why haven't you condemned Spoon the way I have? He repeatedly and blatantly posts information as "fact" that we know is 100% false. Some suspect you in fact are Spoon, but if you're not, why aren't you outraged by him posting so many lies over and over?

i thought it was an emergency that is why IV infusion and TUE retroactively was given?

TUE was granted because USADA determined the use was the****utic. It doesn't have to have been an emergency (though it may have been). Just because we don't have all of the information doesn't mean it is logical to assume that NSAC & USADA are involved in a massive conspiracy to mask Floyd's use of salt water.

why USADA did not inform NSAC that he was dehydrated

They had no obligation to. IV rehydration was 100% legal in Nevada. Floyd's condition may not have been considered a serious medical problem hours earlier when his questionnaire was filled out. I don't know if you've ever suffered from dehydration before, but a matter of hours can make a significant difference in how you feel.

why floyd filled up the pre fight form and signed it saying he's in tip top condition?

I've posted the questionnaire already. There is no question asking if you're in "tip top" condition. Very few fighters, if any, feel in tip top condition at a weigh in. Everybody is drained and cranky. Unless you can prove that Floyd was suffering from a SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITION at the weigh-in that he hid from the commission, there is no reason to believe the questionnaire was filled out dishonestly. NSAC & USADA have confirmed Floyd did nothing wrong.

all i have was 1:45PM (usada arrival) 2:00PM weigh in and 8:15PM USADA left floyd.

So you admit Spoon was lying when he wrote:

"Fact: In an unannounced test, USADA, which was paid $150,000 to do drug testing for the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, caught Floyd Mayweather injecting himself with an IV the night before his fight with Pacquiao."

[Rath]

This is what Spoon wrote:

"Fact: In an unannounced test, USADA, which was paid $150,000 to do drug testing for the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, caught Floyd Mayweather injecting himself with an IV the night before his fight with Pacquiao."

We know that's not true. Based on when the weigh in was, based on USADA arriving before the weigh in, based on when the post IV sample was given, we know six hours after USADA's arrival the infusion would still be taking place. So the idea that USADA walked in on Floyd already receiving an IV at 1:45 before even heading over to the weigh in is completely ludicrous.

If your interest in this matter is the pursuit of truth, why haven't you condemned Spoon the way I have? He repeatedly and blatantly posts information as "fact" that we know is 100% false. Some suspect you in fact are Spoon, but if you're not, why aren't you outraged by him posting so many lies over and over?




TUE was granted because USADA determined the use was the****utic. It doesn't have to have been an emergency (though it may have been). Just because we don't have all of the information doesn't mean it is logical to assume that NSAC & USADA are involved in a massive conspiracy to mask Floyd's use of salt water.




They had no obligation to. IV rehydration was 100% legal in Nevada. Floyd's condition may not have been considered a serious medical problem hours earlier when his questionnaire was filled out. I don't know if you've ever suffered from dehydration before, but a matter of hours can make a significant difference in how you feel.




I've posted the questionnaire already. There is no question asking if you're in "tip top" condition. Very few fighters, if any, feel in tip top condition at a weigh in. Everybody is drained and cranky. Unless you can prove that Floyd was suffering from a SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITION at the weigh-in that he hid from the commission, there is no reason to believe the questionnaire was filled out dishonestly. NSAC & USADA have confirmed Floyd did nothing wrong.




So you admit Spoon was lying when he wrote:

"Fact: In an unannounced test, USADA, which was paid $150,000 to do drug testing for the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, caught Floyd Mayweather injecting himself with an IV the night before his fight with Pacquiao."

deal with post #8223 first then we deal with this.

there are already 3 post you conveniently ignoring for reason i can not understand.