Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Lester Tutor]

They say the hardest thing to do is sports is hit major league pitching. PEDs helped Barry bonds do that.

HGH specifically has been scientifically shown to improve eye tracking, hand eye coordination, and mental dexterity.

And how is that relevant to boxers that got tested rigorously for a 2015 bout? Why don't you provide evidence or research of what can be done on how to mask something within a day after being tested before and after, and then still mask additional blood testing the following day.

[GTTofAK]

And how is that relevant to boxers that got tested rigorously for a 2015 bout? Why don't you provide evidence or research of what can be done on how to mask something within a day after being tested before and after, and then still mask additional blood testing the following day.

Morales didn't' need to mask ****. USADA simply didn't tell the NYSAC about multiple positive until after they got caught.

That said the current HGH test is not very good. Just delay testing for as long as you can then get off of it when testing starts. Oh who does that sound like?

[Lester Tutor]

Morales didn't' need to mask ****. USADA simply didn't tell the NYSAC about multiple positive until after they got caught.

That said the current HGH test is not very good. Just delay testing for as long as you can then get off of it when testing starts. Oh who does that sound like?

I don't know what you are referencing. Was TMT Morales' promoter? I am specifically responding to a ton of pages that were handed over to Top Rank and TMT per your conversations. It's clear that USADA was insinuating its full cooperation and again, they state, that WADA provides verified results if needed.

[Slip Stream]

What u are talking about is the fight and your views on that. Which differs from mine but that is separate discussion.

This is about Floyd and his IV scandal. Floyd fans can't seem to disassociate the two.

They aren't two separate issues if you're implying or outright saying he was masking PEDs, because the point would be he was allegedly taking them to gain some sort of advantage over Manny in the fight. You can't separate the IV from whatever his alleged intent was for using it, right?

And again, I'm not sure what obvious advantage Floyd would gain from PEDs when he clearly has the ring IQ to beat Manny like a stank ass pvssy in a run down motel.

They say the hardest thing to do is sports is hit major league pitching. PEDs helped Barry bonds do that.

HGH specifically has been scientifically shown to improve eye tracking, hand eye coordination, and mental dexterity.

PEDs do not increase ring IQ friend, and that's ultimately what dispatched Pacquiao, nothing more. Mayweather didn't and doesn't need artificial enhancements to beat the likes of Manny....

[ModernTalking]

They aren't two separate issues if you're implying or outright saying he was masking PEDs, because the point would be he was allegedly taking them to gain some sort of advantage over Manny in the fight. You can't separate the IV from whatever his alleged intent was for using it, right?

And again, I'm not sure what obvious advantage Floyd would gain from PEDs when he clearly has the ring IQ to beat Manny like a stank ass pvssy in a run down motel.



PEDs do not increase ring IQ friend, and that's ultimately what dispatched Pacquiao, nothing more. Mayweather didn't and doesn't need artificial enhancements to beat the likes of Manny....

dispatched

PAC gave Froid a lesson in defense and countering he'll never forget.

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dispatched

PAC gave Froid a lesson in defense and countering he'll never forget.

A lesson in "defense?" How'd Manny do that, by blocking Mayweather's punches with his head?

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

Yeah sure, I remember Pacquiao getting knocked on the ropes a few times and getting outlanded.

Oh wait...

[GTTofAK]

I don't know what you are referencing. Was TMT Morales' promoter?

No golden boy was. It references a pattern of behavior by USADA. They dont report positive tests if the people paying them dont want them reported.

USADA has on credibility because they have hid positive tests in the past and then lied about it to NSAC and the press.

I am specifically responding to a ton of pages that were handed over to Top Rank and TMT per your conversations. It's clear that USADA was insinuating its full cooperation and again, they state

Do you know what was handed over? Yes or no? The answer is know because USADA doesn't say. They never specifically say that they fully complied with the subpena. Only that they turned over some documents. Nowhere do they say that they turned over all requested documents, specifically test results.

WADA provides verified results if needed.

WADA doesn't know what samples belong to whom. USADA is playing on your own ignorance of the process.

[GTTofAK]

PEDs do not increase ring IQ friend, and that's ultimately what dispatched Pacquiao, nothing more. Mayweather didn't and doesn't need artificial enhancements to beat the likes of Manny....

And if you listen to any actual boxer what goes with time is your ability to pull the trigger. PEDs give you the ability to pull the trigger.

[Lester Tutor]

A lesson in "defense?" How'd Manny do that, by blocking Mayweather's punches with his head?

Most videos online with highlights claiming that Pac won are among the biggest fails and constitute of about 90% of people that don't watch boxing. As if true boxing fans can't watch a bout at normal speed...we need to rely on slow motion. Sigh.

It's ironic that people love to rinse or replay Floyd on the ropes in round 4 just taking Pac's combos ala classic Floyd Rope'a'dope. There are masters in boxing that can absorb shots on the ropes like no other. I mean Roy Jones Jr. was eating body shots and combos at HW on the ropes agaisnt John Ruiz. The same thing with Calzaghe. The way Rios was hunting and jagging Pac with force even the ropes should give a basic idea of Floyd's power against Pac. Floyd is just bigger than Pac, and so when you add Floyd's skillset circumstance vs Cotto, Mosley, De La Hoya, Mosley, etc... the favored is Floyd to beat Pac.

When we all watched Pac flurry Floyd on the ropes and stepped back was the initial second we all knew Pac lost the confidence. Pac never flurried against a tuttle master like Floyd playing rope a dope.