Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[radioraheem]

Its a cat and mouse game.

You think that its all solved now? We are going to catch all cheaters with current testing? No. They currently are doing it (cheating) and the percentage of cheaters caught is still the same average as before.

Cat and mouse, meaning you are waiting and hoping, like some people who are waiting for Jesus to make a return to planet Earth.

[Zaroku]

USADA replied back with a 25-page PDF a week after the Hauser story came out. Meanwhile, two weeks have passed and still nothing from Hauser. Maybe it's because his story got debunked with numerous facts.

There is no limit on a Retroactive TUE. Retroactive TUEs are more for emergency and last minute circumstances. You are reaching saying that a 750 ml solution of saline and multivitamins was there to mask the presence of other substances (aka PEDS).

Next, you say 18 days. But you still don't seem to know what a Retroactive TUE is. Please go learn what it is and you'll see why 18 days is meaningless.

I know, I know, Pacquiao lost and it's still hard to deal with.

But...... But ........ PACman........ But........ Lloyd/Ployd/Floyd could not have beaten PACman so easily. Oh c'mon, Pac followed Ployd and only got pot shot & out boxed the whole fight. PAC won, slo mo proves nothing, PAC the greatest ever.

PAC vs Postol

My money, on PAC!

[hardvibes]

So many replies I don't see. Good. These floyd fanboys are hurt.

Reply to this if you can, b

[IR0NFIST]

USADA replied back with a 25-page PDF a week after the Hauser story came out. Meanwhile, two weeks have passed and still nothing from Hauser. Maybe it's because his story got debunked with numerous facts.

There is no limit on a Retroactive TUE. Retroactive TUEs are more for emergency and last minute circumstances. You are reaching saying that a 750 ml solution of saline and multivitamins was there to mask the presence of other substances (aka PEDS).

Next, you say 18 days. But you still don't seem to know what a Retroactive TUE is. Please go learn what it is and you'll see why 18 days is meaningless.

I know, I know, Pacquiao lost and it's still hard to deal with.

What exactly was this last minute emergency that would justify the use of IVs containing 15 times the amount of saline normally used to treat dehydration?

[Lester Tutor]

I still like the ''but Floyd took more than 50ml which is 'illegal' !!!'' and still avoiding exemption guidelines.

Here's what 50ml looks like in the real world to cover someone with dehydration! Yup, that surely is going to cover 3-4 liters the average human loses in a day!

[hardvibes]

What exactly was this last minute emergency that would justify the use of IVs containing 15 times the amount of saline normally used to treat dehydration?

Oh man did you see Floyd that day? He looked so freaking bad he was dying!!!

[ADP02]

It's actually you who still can't grasp the definition. You have constantly used it conveniently to suggest that it was through giving blood and urine that Mayweather and Ellerbe claimed he was dehydrated. But this is completely false, and you got called out on it.

There have been fighters that have used NSAC, USADA, and VADA. Regardless, it does not change the fact that most professional boxers today rehydrate via IV after the weigh-in. It is common and standard practice. And most rehydrate with waaaaaay more quan****** than what Floyd used to treat dehydration.

Next, Mayweather received a Retroactive TUE that is within WADA rules, including the quantity. But you probably still haven't read that is.

Contributed doesn't mean it's the reason. And you are a reach god.

In the video you are referencing comments out of context. Mayweather said the following first:

You know what "contributed to" means?

Just in case you say that I'm taking the definition out of context, here you go:

"contribute to" : to be an important factor in; help to cause:
EXAMPLE: A sudden downpour contributed to the traffic jam.



It's right in front of you and you still do not get what "contributed to" means. You are a lost case, my man.



The rest of what you said, I already explained it to you. Floyd is so special, he got his TUE. No other reason for it because it was prohibited. Remember when you said "but its a method not substance so it is not part of the prohibited list"

Well, USADA themselves said that methods are part of the prohibited list, just like I tried many times to tell you but that too, you didn't understand just like you do not understand what "contributed to" means!

[Zaroku]

So many replies I don't see. Good. These floyd fanboys are hurt.

Reply to this is you can, b

Reply to Max??? "Is I can?" (Sic)

His is, opinions a is, don't add anything to this discussions'.. Iziz.


Postol beat my guy, cool. Take it and move on.

May your love of boxing out shine any favoritism for any boxer.
May our sense of fairness in the ring be measured by the skills each warrior brings.
May we all allow our favorite boxers the right to fail, and we still remain fans.

Let's let deeds, and heart, not words or hype determine who the best man is.

Let us never see color in the ring, except blue & red corners.

Let us always be fair to each and every man who laces them up, and gives it his all. Win, lose or draw.

In defeat no excuses, in victory no prideful boasts.

[radioraheem]

What exactly was this last minute emergency that would justify the use of IVs containing 15 times the amount of saline normally used to treat dehydration?

Dehydration. And it's not 15 times the amount normally used. Dehydration amounts are based from individual to individual, with one key factor being used is their own weight.

[IR0NFIST]

I still like the ''but Floyd took more than 50ml which is 'illegal' !!!'' and still avoiding exemption guidelines.

Here's what 50ml looks like in the real world to cover someone with dehydration! Yup, that surely is going to cover 3-4 liters the average human loses in a day!

I'm glad we can both agree that there was no medical emergency. A few glasses of water would have been sufficient for the treatment of Floyd's mild dehydration, and he injected 750 ml of saline directly into his bloodstream for another reason.