Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[DeadLikeMe]

Floyd ruined their lives

[ADP02]

If only Floyd wasn't randomly tested throughout his training camp this IV "scandal" could have finally been that last smoking gun that would have finally erased Manny's loss to Floyd, more importantly it would've erased the pain from the minds of Manny's fans, that moronically anointed him the Mayweather killer.

Yup, just like that slow-mo tape of the fight demonstrated why a "one armed" fighter thought he won in the ring but remembered during the press conference how hurt he was....

You tell them!!!

Oh wait, Lance Armstrong was supposedly tested all year round and even though he and his fans said the same thing, Lance was able to use the same tricks FLoyd borrowed to beat the tests!


"It was all hard work" - Lance Armstrong

[radioraheem]

(Before I start, click the link in my signature. It has all the answers you need. Don't come back until you're done with it. Enjoy.)

Too bad that the truth always comes to the surface. It takes time, but it always comes out.
A lie has wings and the truth has feet.
That’s why a lie can fly all over town and get there first.
The truth moves slowly, but when it arrives, it can stand on its own.

Floyd fans, please....don't talk like you're unaware of all the scandals out there. You would just embarrass yourself.

Some floyd fans say "it's over, Usada and Nsac justified everything, case closed".
Are you serious or just blindly trying to win your little argument on the internet without even looking at the FACTS?
Usada and Nsac are on the same boat. They will certainly not point the gun at their head.

There are still unanswered questions by USADA

Again, Hauser's response to USADA's pdf:

On his medical form, Floyd wrote that he wasn't suffering from a serious medical condition such as "severe dehydration", and didn't receive any IV injections. There's no reason for him to exclude these important details unless, of course, he was using the IVs for a purpose other than "rehydration". At least Pacquiao's medical form listed the NSAIDs he was taking that hinted towards a pre-fight injury. Floyd, oddly enough, didn't seem to want anyone knowing that he took an excess of 750 ml of saline (roughly 15 times the WADA limit) the day before the fight

It's been two weeks and we are still waiting for this long form reply from Mr. Hauser after USADA basically went on record and totally debunked his article by correcting it with lots of facts.

Next, most professional boxers rehydrate after the weigh-in via IV. Yet, hardly any of you has any remarks regarding this practice.

Then Floyd also received a Retroactive TUE which is in accordance with WADA rules (including the solution amount). And no Pacquiao's medication did not hint toward a pre-fight injury. Only if you are reaching can you say that.

[radioraheem]

You tell them!!!

Oh wait, Lance Armstrong was supposedly tested all year round and even though he and his fans said the same thing, Lance was able to use the same tricks FLoyd borrowed to beat the tests!

"It was all hard work" - Lance Armstrong

More reaching. Armstrong failed tests as early as 1999. Additionally, a lot of the blood doping and EPO done then wasn't tested for til 2005.

[radioraheem]

Floyd ruined their lives

He most definitely did. They can't seem to stop the big bad Mayweather, even in 'retirement.'

[radioraheem]

Oh, did you read the definition of "Contributed to" and now have to change your story and want to put a new spin to this? Got it.

As for your other comment lets see this huge list of boxers who also volunteered to follow USADA testing and their rules!!!

Read the below definition from USADA. Floyd did NOT meet the criteria but since Floyd is special and they are the ones who are paying USADA, they used the TUE loophole in which very few athletes have gotten. Why? Again, because Floyd is special!!! read below.

USADA (Travis Tygart) said:
"What's important to remember is the WADA list is the list of prohibited substances. So, those are what most people consider the drugs, the performance enhancing drugs, but it's also the prohibited substance and methods. And there are certain methods, like an IV infusion that you just mentioned, or gene doping or autologous or ****logous blood transfusion, where you take someone else's blood in advance of a bout and it gives you oxygen carrying capacity and recovery capacity and all sorts of benefits. It would be, by the way, game changing benefits.

So, the IVs are allowed under certain circumstances under the WADA prohibited list. You know, if you're in the hospital, clinic, having surgery."


"The purpose ...... I don't know how closely you've followed our investigation into cycling, but you saw it used a lot in cycling. Because, putting a bag of saline over 50 ml, for example is the rule, would potentially mask ........."

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It's actually you who still can't grasp the definition. You have constantly used it conveniently to suggest that it was through giving blood and urine that Mayweather and Ellerbe claimed he was dehydrated. But this is completely false, and you got called out on it.

There have been fighters that have used NSAC, USADA, and VADA. Regardless, it does not change the fact that most professional boxers today rehydrate via IV after the weigh-in. It is common and standard practice. And most rehydrate with waaaaaay more quan****** than what Floyd used to treat dehydration.

Next, Mayweather received a Retroactive TUE that is within WADA rules, including the quantity. But you probably still haven't read that is.

[hardvibes]

It's been two weeks and we are still waiting for this long form reply from Mr. Hauser after USADA basically went on record and totally debunked his article by correcting it with lots of facts.

It takes time to put everything together. You are not a journalist nor a lawyer. Usada have their own answers so it's easy for them. Thomas Hauser is not an employee of USADA.
Try harder.

Next, most professional boxers rehydrate after the weigh-in via IV. Yet, hardly any of you has any remarks regarding this practice.

There's a limit and a TUE. The main reason for using 750ml is to hide the presence of other well known substances.

Then Floyd also received a Retroactive TUE which is in accordance with WADA rules (including the solution amount).

18 days.

And no Pacquiao's medication did not hint toward a pre-fight injury. Only if you are reaching can you say that.

Manny didn't write it SO HE COULD FIGHT.

Go back in my ignore list. Bye.

[radioraheem]

It takes time to put everything together. You are not a journalist nor a lawyer. Usada have their own answers so it's easy for them. Thomas Hauser is not an employee of USADA.
Try harder.

There's a limit and a TUE. The main reason for using 750ml is to hide the presence of other well known substances.

18 days.

Manny didn't write it SO HE COULD FIGHT.

Go back in my ignore list. Bye.

USADA replied back with a 25-page PDF a week after the Hauser story came out. Meanwhile, two weeks have passed and still nothing from Hauser. Maybe it's because his story got debunked with numerous facts.

There is no limit on a Retroactive TUE. Retroactive TUEs are more for emergency and last minute circumstances. You are reaching saying that a 750 ml solution of saline and multivitamins was there to mask the presence of other substances (aka PEDS).

Next, you say 18 days. But you still don't seem to know what a Retroactive TUE is. Please go learn what it is and you'll see why 18 days is meaningless.

I know, I know, Pacquiao lost and it's still hard to deal with.

[ADP02]

More reaching. Armstrong failed tests as early as 1999. Additionally, a lot of the blood doping and EPO done then wasn't tested for til 2005.

Its a cat and mouse game.

You think that its all solved now? We are going to catch all cheaters with current testing? No. They currently are doing it (cheating) and the percentage of cheaters caught is still the same average as before.

[ModernTalking]

you tell them!!!

Oh wait, lance armstrong was supposedly tested all year round and even though he and his fans said the same thing, lance was able to use the same tricks floyd borrowed to beat the tests!


"it was all hard work" - lance armstrong

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