Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[boxinghead530]

Even if that were true, Floyd is the only one who portrays himself to be a crusader for "cleaning up the sport". Throwing around terms like "Olympic style drug testing" when he's never actually took part in it. Oddly enough, he's the only one with rumors floating around about failing 3 drug tests with USADA along with using banned IVs under su****ious circumstances.

Regardless if mayweather portrays himself that way I think it they are both dirty. Maybe Pac is clean now but I think it's very likely he has been dirty in the past. So in my book he's dirty. Look I love Pacs heart and desire and his style. I love watching him fight. He's had some amazing fights but I'm not going to let my love of watching a fighter fight cloud my judgement. I love watching all three(pac, Marquez and mayweather)fight but reality is they are dirty and because of that I look at them in a different light. Sucks but that's the way it is.

[Rath]

I think there's clear evidence against Mayweather of cheating.

Marquez is highly suspect, atleast post Manny 3.

Manny is clean in my opinion.

to lighten up Floyd cheating ways if for some rason he really get caught,

Floyd fans will paint all athlete Pac the most with the same brush

Floyd fans - yeah Floyd was caught but Pac cheated too LOL

[boxinghead530]

I think there's clear evidence against Mayweather of cheating.

Marquez is highly suspect, atleast post Manny 3.

Manny is clean in my opinion.

Look I know Pacs your guy and you love to watch him fight. I did too and he may be clean now. But IMO there was a time where he was highly suspect. Pacquiao is fun to watch and he has a great story behind him but that doesn't change the fact he was suspect too. I think there was a time when he was dirty. Like I said he may be clean now but it doesn't change the fact he was prolly dirty before.

I love watching Marquez, mayweather and pac fight. They all bring something different in the ring. But they all share the status as PED users. Thats reality.

[GTTofAK]

really? I thought the bodybuilder guys were never even tested, I thought only the "natural" competitions had testing.

And you think 'natural' bodybuilders and powerlifters are 'natural'.

[GTTofAK]

Look I know Pacs your guy and you love to watch him fight. I did too and he may be clean now. But IMO there was a time where he was highly suspect.

Here is why I think Pac was clean as far a steroids go. Ariza doesn't know **** about steroids. His MO is over the counter stimulants. He simply keeps up on what over the counter stimulants are banned and hypes his fighters up on what is basically legal preworkout. They feel great but eventually adrenal fatigue sets in as and they visibly slow down as happened with Manny. With Rios Ariza fell behind the curve on what as banned and Rios got popped for a recently banned stimulant.

Now if Floyd want's a steroid Guru and Ariza cant deliver who does Ariza call in?

Memo.

[IR0NFIST]

Regardless if mayweather portrays himself that way I think it they are both dirty. Maybe Pac is clean now but I think it's very likely he has been dirty in the past. So in my book he's dirty. Look I love Pacs heart and desire and his style. I love watching him fight. He's had some amazing fights but I'm not going to let my love of watching a fighter fight cloud my judgement. I love watching all three(pac, Marquez and mayweather)fight but reality is they are dirty and because of that I look at them in a different light. Sucks but that's the way it is.

This isn't about Pacquiao, it's about Floyd proclaiming himself to be a clean athlete on crusade to clean up the sport, yet there's evidence that would suggests otherwise.

[ADP02]

yeah i saw this already but any further research on this topic? athletes are always trying to find ways to beat tests, if they found new methods, i doubt they would post it no the internet however

Well its a cat and mouse game.

One point that was not discussed but Floyd has been caught doing on previous occasions with USADA sample collectors is the time delay. That is, USADA had to wait 6.5 hours to get a complete sample!!! So Floyd used 2 tricks that used to be used by Lance Armstrong. Delay getting tested and mask!!!


"Mr. Mayweather was notified by the Doping Control Officer (DCO) at his home around 1:45 pm, prior to Mr. Mayweather relocating to MGM Grand Garden Arena for the weigh-in. From the time of notification, Mr. Mayweather was continuously monitored by the USADA DCO until the sample collection was completed at approximately 8:15 pm."

[mathed]

Well its a cat and mouse game.

One point that was not discussed but Floyd has been caught doing on previous occasions with USADA sample collectors is the time delay. That is, USADA had to wait 6.5 hours to get a complete sample!!! So Floyd used 2 tricks that used to be used by Lance Armstrong. Delay getting tested and mask!!!


"Mr. Mayweather was notified by the Doping Control Officer (DCO) at his home around 1:45 pm, prior to Mr. Mayweather relocating to MGM Grand Garden Arena for the weigh-in. From the time of notification, Mr. Mayweather was continuously monitored by the USADA DCO until the sample collection was completed at approximately 8:15 pm."

And vampire facials sound like they are exactly like the blood doping centrifuge that Armstrong used as well....learned from the master.

[ADP02]

And vampire facials sound like they are exactly like the blood doping centrifuge that Armstrong used as well....learned from the master.

Yup, who can believe Floyd's excuse on that one. He said it was for his eyes but who would be doing that just as he is getting ready to start training camp and get those same eyes punched?

We only knew about that one due to the side effects lasting longer than Floyd expected.

Who knows what else Floyd has done that we do not know about?

[ADP02]

And vampire facials sound like they are exactly like the blood doping centrifuge that Armstrong used as well....learned from the master.

Oh, one more similar tactic that was used by Floyd and Lance Armstrong. Floyd's retroactive TUE that NSAC only knew about after the fact.


"Armstrong tested positive for a corticosteroid, cortisone, in 1999, the year of his first Tour de France win........ a team doctor then fabricated and backdated a prescription for the cortisone to excuse the positive result, claiming that Armstrong had been using cortisone to treat a "saddle sore." Because cortisone is only outlawed among cyclists who don't have a medical need for it, dishonest doctors can easily give cheaters cover under a phony prescription"






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