People are pretending like Cotto didn`t get terrible beating by Margarito in 2008 and like he wasn`t rocked by Clottey also. I think Clottey was robbed in that fight.
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Originally posted by SilverMiles View PostTwice as many? Seems more like you aren't counting certain Manny opponents and counting all of mayweathers. Where do you get your numbers from. Maybe you can share them with me.
I did the research myself and counted 19 for Floyd and 19 for Manny. 23 for Manny including rematches and only 21 for Floyd including rematches.
Manny has beaten more current or former world champions than Floyd. Numbers don't lie, right?
As far as Hall of Famers beaten they're both tied at 1 since De las Hoya is the only legitimate hall of Famers. That's only counting opponents in the HOF by the way not who could be.
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Originally posted by SilverMiles View PostTwice as many? Seems more like you aren't counting certain Manny opponents and counting all of mayweathers. Where do you get your numbers from. Maybe you can share them with me.
I did the research myself and counted 19 for Floyd and 19 for Manny. 23 for Manny including rematches and only 21 for Floyd including rematches.
Manny has beaten more current or former world champions than Floyd. Numbers don't lie, right?
As far as Hall of Famers beaten they're both tied at 1 since De las Hoya is the only legitimate hall of Famers. That's only counting opponents in the HOF by the way not who could be.
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Originally posted by SilverMiles View PostThe standards for Floyd greatness is substantially lower than that of other fighters. He doesn't have to fight prime opponents he just has to beat them. He left welterweight while everyone beat each other to death and came back to pick up the scraps.
Everyone know Manny wasn't the same after fighting Margarito and taking body shots from a much larger opponent, who Floyd also ducked.
Manny had to fight prime fighters though 8 division, is considered FOTD, universally recognized 3x fighter of the year, has beaten the most world champions in the history of the sport, and has 70 pro fights. But still some idiots believes Floyd compares.
A gift decision over a smaller man doesn't make you better, lol.
He fought Cotto way too late to be considered a great win and Canelo was Canelo.
You can pick holes in opponents all you want but the same applies to every fighter in histpry. For Pacquiao, you could say De La Hoya, Mosley and Hatton were Floyds leftovers (just as you could spin it the other way round for Cotto).
Was Mosley washed up for Pac? Was Margarito washed up? Was De La Hoya washed up and weight drained? Was Cotto weight drained? Was Hatton washed up? Was Clottey coming off a loss? Was Rios coming off a loss? Did Bradley outpoint him? Did Marquez beat Pacquiao three times and then knock him clean out?
I'm not discrediting these wins - all I'm saying is you can clutch at straws and discredit more or less every victory on a fighters record if you dig deep enough. At the end of the day, Floyd beat pretty much every hall of famer in his era whether you deem some to be washed up or not and he'll undoubtedly go down as the best fighter of his era, certainly the best fighter of this century so far.
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Originally posted by SilverMiles View PostWhat's the excuse for Floyd not fighting him in 2008 and 2009? Face it Floyd ducked out. Fought all those guys 5 years later. He's even fighting Berto five years later.
He would get credit for Canelo if he hadn't discredit his own win before it even happened, lol.
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Originally posted by SOPH~ REP. View PostI gotta give him credit top 3 no other fighter has that resume but Berto is not a Main event figher , not even a co feature .but cotto fought some guy from over sees canelo ko'd a sorry kirkland and pac before may fought algeria .
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Originally posted by SilverMiles View PostThe standards for Floyd greatness is substantially lower than that of other fighters. He doesn't have to fight prime opponents he just has to beat them. He left welterweight while everyone beat each other to death and came back to pick up the scraps.
Everyone know Manny wasn't the same after fighting Margarito and taking body shots from a much larger opponent, who Floyd also ducked.
Manny had to fight prime fighters though 8 division, is considered FOTD, universally recognized 3x fighter of the year, has beaten the most world champions in the history of the sport, and has 70 pro fights. But still some idiots believes Floyd compares.
A gift decision over a smaller man doesn't make you better, lol.
He fought Cotto way too late to be considered a great win and Canelo was Canelo.
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