Comments Thread For: Mayweather: In 2012, They Said Cotto Was Washed Up

[MDPopescu]

he didnt underestimate maidana, thats why he made him wear pillow gloves. in the rematch he came back with cheating tactics and kenny bayless just to make sure maidana didnt have a chance

... ^^^ Right .................................................. .

[truefan]

True to a point. The media is giving credit to his improvement based on his union with Freddie Roach. Some say that he would beat Floyd now. I beg to differ but it would be just as competitive as the first fight until Floyd pulls away. His wins are always discredited for some reason so I kind of see his point with that. The reason is people just want to see him lose. There is never an person who is this dominant to the point where he is so ****y (until last few fights he has been quiet) and barely loses rounds.

[WalkerSmith1921]

Try judging with your eyes instead of your heart

Commentating was fine. The fight was competitive where it was Maidana's work rate and body attack vs accurate headshots.

some rounds were won by a few clean punches, that Mayweather still had to work hard through out the fight to get.



And the rematch was a joke. Complete clinch fest. Looked like a mma fighter holding on to stop the fist from flying.

Haters will always hate ElHaterChingon,

Dude was spot on with the rounds Mayweather won. I personally had the fight 9-3 Mayweather the first fight.

[Bronx2245]

Floyd Mayweather is NOT interested in a fight with Cotto 2007-12-16..... Floyd gave his thought on Cotto trying to lure Floyd into a fight...... more importantly, Floyd doesn't feel the fight makes any financial sense at the moment.






//krikya360.com/mayweathe...beat-me--11721

We know why Mayweather didn't fight Cotto:

April 25, 2006:

Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."



April 27, 2015:

Arum told ESPN's Dan Rafael at the time that before he left Mayweather had asked, among other things, for a $20 million guaranteed purse to fight Oscar De La Hoya.

"He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road," Arum said.

A year later, Mayweather made $25 million in a fight against De La Hoya that still holds the record for total pay per view buys.

After buying himself out of his Top Rank contract, Mayweather took unprecedented control over his career. Rather than getting paid a large guaranteed fee up front by a promotor like Top Rank — as is the norm across the sport — Mayweather stages his fights himself and takes a cut of the total revenue on the back end.

Greg Bishop described it like this for the New York Times in 2011:

"He earns a percentage of every ticket purchased, every pretzel consumed, every poster sold. He will earn from countries that paid for broadcasting rights and the theaters where the fight is shown.

"Mayweather, regarded as one of the best boxers in history, fights under a highly unusual financial structure, exchanging upfront risk for back-end profit while retaining total control."

After distributors and networks get their cut, Mayweather gets a bigger piece of the remaining revenue than anyone else in the sport.

Mayweather fought De La Hoya in 2007 and made $25 million. His earnings only grew from there, culminating in an $80 million payday for 2013's fight against Canelo Alvarez, which set the record for PPV revenue at $150 million. In that fight he made $41.5 million pursue, and then almost doubled that amount once PPV receipts came in.

Every move is designed to give him a larger piece of the pie. He left HBO and signed a more lucrative deal with Showtime in 2013. He got a Nevada promoter's license for his Mayweather Promotions company so he could stop co-promoting fights with Golden Boy in 2014.

Since Mayweather went pro in 1996 he has made over $400 million in career earnings, and the vast majority of it has come after he spent $750,000 to leave Top Rank in 2006.

Mayweather doesn't have a single endorsement, but he has been able to capitalize on his value to his sport more than any other athlete alive.

[Don Pichardo]

Cotto wanted no part of floyd

lol. mayweather "retired" conveniently at that time.

[ADP02]

and this was after fighting unknown baldomir and zab judah. he's always been full of sh-it. he disgracefuly retired when everyone wanted him to fight #1 cotto.

Exactly. He should have fought Cotto back. For him to say that the Cotto fight didn't make financial sense was laughable.

[ADP02]

We know why Mayweather didn't fight Cotto:

April 25, 2006:

Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."



April 27, 2015:

Arum told ESPN's Dan Rafael at the time that before he left Mayweather had asked, among other things, for a $20 million guaranteed purse to fight Oscar De La Hoya.

"He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road," Arum said.

A year later, Mayweather made $25 million in a fight against De La Hoya that still holds the record for total pay per view buys.

After buying himself out of his Top Rank contract, Mayweather took unprecedented control over his career. Rather than getting paid a large guaranteed fee up front by a promotor like Top Rank ***8212; as is the norm across the sport ***8212; Mayweather stages his fights himself and takes a cut of the total revenue on the back end.

Greg Bishop described it like this for the New York Times in 2011:

"He earns a percentage of every ticket purchased, every pretzel consumed, every poster sold. He will earn from countries that paid for broadcasting rights and the theaters where the fight is shown.

"Mayweather, regarded as one of the best boxers in history, fights under a highly unusual financial structure, exchanging upfront risk for back-end profit while retaining total control."

After distributors and networks get their cut, Mayweather gets a bigger piece of the remaining revenue than anyone else in the sport.

Mayweather fought De La Hoya in 2007 and made $25 million. His earnings only grew from there, culminating in an $80 million payday for 2013's fight against Canelo Alvarez, which set the record for PPV revenue at $150 million. In that fight he made $41.5 million pursue, and then almost doubled that amount once PPV receipts came in.

Every move is designed to give him a larger piece of the pie. He left HBO and signed a more lucrative deal with Showtime in 2013. He got a Nevada promoter's license for his Mayweather Promotions company so he could stop co-promoting fights with Golden Boy in 2014.

Since Mayweather went pro in 1996 he has made over $400 million in career earnings, and the vast majority of it has come after he spent $750,000 to leave Top Rank in 2006.

Mayweather doesn't have a single endorsement, but he has been able to capitalize on his value to his sport more than any other athlete alive.

The above is the most laughable thing that its embarrassing for Floyd. Thanks for shaming Floyd even more. Imagine to get a fight with Margarito or whoever, all the stars in the universe have to be aligned or else Floyd would not accept it. Furthermore, just picture if Floyd would have lost the first fight in the contract being Margarito then what? Arum will be paying those guarantees from his pocket and getting little in return.

When Canelo asked for a guarantee for the next fight what did Floyd say? Floyd said that is not the way it works. You handle your current fight and then we will talk about the possibility of a fight. Floyd said, imagine if Canelo loses to Trout, then what? Still fight because of the guarantee? Floyd fans agreed with Floyd.

So Floyd and his fans know that your above link was meant to avoid certain fights not make the fights. Even AFTER the break in contract with TR, Arum had Margarito waiting many months to get a single fight with Floyd. Floyd instead fought no name, who cares Baldomir. Further embarrassment.

[Don Pichardo]

PRBOXINGCOTTO, Maidana got a rematch for a reason; Cotto didn't.

Yup floyd didn't want another go at Cotto despite obviously making more money which we all know it floyd prime objective. There is a reason for that..

[Dirk Diggler UK]

We know why Mayweather didn't fight Cotto:

April 25, 2006:

Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."



April 27, 2015:

Arum told ESPN's Dan Rafael at the time that before he left Mayweather had asked, among other things, for a $20 million guaranteed purse to fight Oscar De La Hoya.

"He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road," Arum said.

A year later, Mayweather made $25 million in a fight against De La Hoya that still holds the record for total pay per view buys.

After buying himself out of his Top Rank contract, Mayweather took unprecedented control over his career. Rather than getting paid a large guaranteed fee up front by a promotor like Top Rank — as is the norm across the sport — Mayweather stages his fights himself and takes a cut of the total revenue on the back end.

Greg Bishop described it like this for the New York Times in 2011:

"He earns a percentage of every ticket purchased, every pretzel consumed, every poster sold. He will earn from countries that paid for broadcasting rights and the theaters where the fight is shown.

"Mayweather, regarded as one of the best boxers in history, fights under a highly unusual financial structure, exchanging upfront risk for back-end profit while retaining total control."

After distributors and networks get their cut, Mayweather gets a bigger piece of the remaining revenue than anyone else in the sport.

Mayweather fought De La Hoya in 2007 and made $25 million. His earnings only grew from there, culminating in an $80 million payday for 2013's fight against Canelo Alvarez, which set the record for PPV revenue at $150 million. In that fight he made $41.5 million pursue, and then almost doubled that amount once PPV receipts came in.

Every move is designed to give him a larger piece of the pie. He left HBO and signed a more lucrative deal with Showtime in 2013. He got a Nevada promoter's license for his Mayweather Promotions company so he could stop co-promoting fights with Golden Boy in 2014.

Since Mayweather went pro in 1996 he has made over $400 million in career earnings, and the vast majority of it has come after he spent $750,000 to leave Top Rank in 2006.

Mayweather doesn't have a single endorsement, but he has been able to capitalize on his value to his sport more than any other athlete alive.

Where in that long winded yarn did it mention 2008 after Floyd had beaten Hatton and Cotto had beaten Mosley, it was THE fight to make in boxing?

And Floyd "retired" saying that Cotto lived in Puerto Rico or something.

[The Big Dunn]

Mild comments from Floyd that are actually true. Both JMM and Cotto were able to resurrect themselves after losing to him.

Reminiscent of Barrera, who resurrected his career beating Hamed after most thought he was done after losing to Junior Jones.