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    USADA is breaking their own rules. Needle use for rehydration is not considered a valid excuse for a TUE. You can only use a needle for medical emergencies or medical related tests.


    We have seen an increase in inquires at USADA about the use of Intravenous (IV) Infusions for this purpose, and would like to assist athletes and medical personnel by offering education. In accordance with the WADA Prohibited List (Category M2 Chemical and Physical Manipulation), all IV infusions and/or injections of more than 50mL (~3.4 tablespoons) per 6-hour period are prohibited, except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations. IV infusions and/or injections of more than 50mL per 6-hour period are prohibited at all times, both in- and out-of-competition unless the athlete has applied for and been granted a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) under the applicable anti-doping rules. Further, if a prohibited substance that is administered intravenously or via injection, a TUE is necessary for this substance regardless of volume.

    Some reports suggest that administration of IV infusions, including dietary supplement and vitamin cocktails, are being provided to athletes for recuperation, recovery or lifestyle reasons. This medical practice is prohibited at all times without prior TUE approval. WADA has justified the inclusion of IV infusions on the Prohibited List given the intent of some athletes to manipulate their plasma volume levels in order to mask the use of a prohibited substance and/or to distort the values in the Athlete Biological Passport. Further, it must be clearly stated that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild rehydration or help speed recovery is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific opinion to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice. Legitimate medical indications for IV infusions are well documented and are most commonly associated with medical emergencies (emergency TUE), in-patient care, surgery, or clinical investigations for diagnostic purposes.

    Athletes should be aware that in specific cases, for example at an Olympic Games, there are specific no-needle policies requiring declarations of all injections/infusions, which aim to protect the health of athletes, encourage best medical practice, and discourage the use of techniques/manipulation that may be considered doping. In these instances, prior approval must be granted for ANY infusion and/or injection of prohibited or non-prohibited substance.

    In cases where IV infusions/injections are deemed medically necessary, good medical practice must ensure that: 1) a clear, well-justified diagnosis has been established; 2) no non-prohibited alternative treatment exists; 3) this treatment will not enhance performance other than to return the athlete to a normal state of health; 4) the treatment is administered by qualified medical personnel in an appropriate medical setting; and 5) adequate medical records of the treatment are maintained. Athletes and support personnel administering IV infusions which cannot be medically justified are committing an anti-doping rule violation (ADRV) whether or not the individual substances are prohibited. In such cases, both the athlete and the personnel administering the IV infusion may be sanctioned.
    Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 05-23-2015, 06:53 PM.

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      Originally posted by Bald Shavers View Post
      As all of us know, Floyd - because of excessive holding and constant running - has been singlehandedly blamed by the boxing and general public for the boringness of the so-called "Fight of the Century" during which he managed to lose 4 rounds to a smaller man (5 inch reach disadvantage, 2 inch height disadvantage) who medical verification has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt...

      was fighting with only one arm.



      Now, Mayweather is trying to re-write history by manipulating public perception via the deceptive act of bogusly blaming Pacquiao for making the fight a boring dud. Specifically, he keeps blaming Pac's not being honest about his injury pre-fight for the reason for the fight's boringness.

      THINK. The problem is: The more Mayweather blames Pacquiao's shoulder injury for the fight's boringness the more he admits that he indeed beat a one armed fighter, hence tainting and...

      making meaningless his (Floyd Mayweather's) so-called "win."

      Besides accepting a rematch offer from Pacquiao, how the hell can can Floyd Mayweather get out of the no win situation that has resulted in his having "beaten" a one armed man with a 5 inch reach disadvantage who he waited to fight 5 years too late?

      Is Mayweather's win really tarnished forever? Does it even count now that it will forever be remembered that he so-called "beat" a one armed man?

      The mysterious The****utic Use Exemption that Mayweather demanded from the authorities dramatically dilutes the so-called "win" against Pacquiao to the point where the tarnishment may now be beyond repair.
      First of all in the eyes of many, Pacquiao won. Does anyone really need three people to tell him who won a fight? This is not a singing or dancing contest which is actually hard to judge.

      The guy who has to push off his opponent's head after missing with his forearm, does headlocks, hugs and runs is the one demonstrating he cannot fight on a level playing field, and thus is the inferior fighter.

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        Oh ****. Mayweather on the multivitamins

        You know you a bad mfer when the best cats can do is get upset you using multivitamins for an "unfair advantage".

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          Originally posted by DoktorSleepless View Post
          USADA is breaking their own rules. Needle use for rehydration is not considered a valid excuse for a TUE. You can only use a needle for medical emergencies or medical related tests.

          Please tell us oh great one how fighters use IV's for rehydration without a needle.


          Here tell this MMA fighter:

          But according to Brunson, the loss wasn’t as simple as most outside observers have made it out to be on social media, believing the former collegiate wrestler simply ran out of gas in the third round – something that hasn’t happened to him in the past.

          Brunson did hit a wall in the third, but it wasn’t from a lack of preparation from a cardio standpoint. Brunson told MMAjunkie that one small change in his post-weigh-in routine set everything spiraling over the next 24 hours, and left him in a bad spot come fight time. Gassing out in the third was inevitable, he believes, and all started after making weight.

          “I didn’t stick to my normal routine,” Brunson said. “Normally, I get an IV to rehydrate, which pretty much everybody does. But the lady doing my IV this time missed my vein three times right after weigh-ins. At that point, I was like, ‘I’m just going to forget it and rehydrate with water.'”

          Brunson said the person who normally runs an IV for him after making weight didn’t do it for this fight. Instead, a friend of a friend, who he said has experience doing IV treatments for fighters, made the attempt a couple hours after he got off the scale. And for whatever reason, it was three strikes, and still no vein.



          or this guy:

          Dr. Johnny Benjamin is MMAjunkie.com’s medical columnist and consultant and a noted combat-sports specialist. He is also a member of the Association of Boxing Commissions’ MMA Medical Subcommittee.

          Using IV fluids with a small amount of electrolytes after weight-cuts and weigh-ins are quite common, and when done properly, they are very useful. But the goal is not performance enhancement through vitamin supplementation but merely restoring proper hydration.

          Remember that $150 vitamin boost is likely to be a waste of your money because you will just urinate it out. Our bodies don’t efficiently store vitamins. That’s why a properly balanced daily diet is so important.


          ask Pacs trainer about Oscar who did the same thing

          “Before the fight started. When he gained two pounds [from 145 to 147] between the weigh-in and fight time.” In an earlier point in the interview, Roach said: “I saw the IV in his arm, I saw the IV marks, it was fresh tape, they hydrated him too late, they waited too long to hydrate him. It was nothing illegal… The thing was, they couldn’t get anything into his system… Nobody let him build his body back up. They did it to themselves.”

          You guys have fun with your new "Saline" PED theory

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            Originally posted by Calabis View Post
            Please tell us oh great one how fighters use IV's for rehydration without a needle.


            Here tell this MMA fighter:

            But according to Brunson, the loss wasn***8217;t as simple as most outside observers have made it out to be on social media, believing the former collegiate wrestler simply ran out of gas in the third round ***8211; something that hasn***8217;t happened to him in the past.

            Brunson did hit a wall in the third, but it wasn***8217;t from a lack of preparation from a cardio standpoint. Brunson told MMAjunkie that one small change in his post-weigh-in routine set everything spiraling over the next 24 hours, and left him in a bad spot come fight time. Gassing out in the third was inevitable, he believes, and all started after making weight.

            ***8220;I didn***8217;t stick to my normal routine,***8221; Brunson said. ***8220;Normally, I get an IV to rehydrate, which pretty much everybody does. But the lady doing my IV this time missed my vein three times right after weigh-ins. At that point, I was like, ***8216;I***8217;m just going to forget it and rehydrate with water.'***8221;

            Brunson said the person who normally runs an IV for him after making weight didn***8217;t do it for this fight. Instead, a friend of a friend, who he said has experience doing IV treatments for fighters, made the attempt a couple hours after he got off the scale. And for whatever reason, it was three strikes, and still no vein.



            or this guy:

            Dr. Johnny Benjamin is MMAjunkie.com***8217;s medical columnist and consultant and a noted combat-sports specialist. He is also a member of the Association of Boxing Commissions***8217; MMA Medical Subcommittee.

            Using IV fluids with a small amount of electrolytes after weight-cuts and weigh-ins are quite common, and when done properly, they are very useful. But the goal is not performance enhancement through vitamin supplementation but merely restoring proper hydration.

            Remember that $150 vitamin boost is likely to be a waste of your money because you will just urinate it out. Our bodies don***8217;t efficiently store vitamins. That***8217;s why a properly balanced daily diet is so important.


            ask Pacs trainer about Oscar who did the same thing

            ***8220;Before the fight started. When he gained two pounds [from 145 to 147] between the weigh-in and fight time.***8221; In an earlier point in the interview, Roach said: ***8220;I saw the IV in his arm, I saw the IV marks, it was fresh tape, they hydrated him too late, they waited too long to hydrate him. It was nothing illegal***8230; The thing was, they couldn***8217;t get anything into his system***8230; Nobody let him build his body back up. They did it to themselves.***8221;

            You guys have fun with your new "Saline" PED theory
            WADA, which USADA supposedly follows, has a no IV/needle policy. The examples you cited weren't under the WADA code so they have zero relevance.
            Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 05-23-2015, 08:26 PM.

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              Originally posted by Biolink View Post
              He was actually using it in camp too if you want to go that far.

              If the ****** Pac fans can talk about Floyd using legal numbing injections on his hands and some goddamn salt water then I'm just gonna keep parroting the same shyt about Manny using the real A-side meth during camp.
              Floyd fan didn't like response so pretend it never happened and move on ..... called deflection.


              OK, smart one. If someone was being "consulted" by Memo Heredia, who had admitted to giving PEDs to many athletes, tells you, "it's just goddamn salt water mix", are you going to believe them? Are you just going to give him a urine test?

              Heck, good luck even with a blood test but the point is why are you Floyd fans OK with the process that occurred of urine testing instead of blood testing?

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                Originally posted by IR0NFIST View Post


                "I had injuries too, both my hands and shoulders were injured" - Fraud Mayweather Jr.

                Will be interesting to see what the commissions say about Floyd saying he had injuries but didn't right them down on the pre-fight medical form.

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                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  Floyd fan didn't like response so pretend it never happened and move on ..... called deflection.


                  OK, smart one. If someone was being "consulted" by Memo Heredia, who had admitted to giving PEDs to many athletes, tells you, "it's just goddamn salt water mix", are you going to believe them? Are you just going to give him a urine test?

                  Heck, good luck even with a blood test but the point is why are you Floyd fans OK with the process that occurred of urine testing instead of blood testing?
                  short and sweet pac lost so all your conspiracy theories and fabrications you tards use as ammunition is all bull**** your a clown and a sad one at that

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                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    Will be interesting to see what the commissions say about Floyd saying he had injuries but didn't right them down on the pre-fight medical form.
                    Commissions wont say a damn thing cause nothing was done wrong yo is a loss that hard to cope with?

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                      Originally posted by DoktorSleepless View Post
                      WADA, which USADA supposedly follows, has a no IV/needle policy. The examples you cited weren't under the WADA code so they have zero relevance.
                      1st, you have no idea what the hell you are talking about....before citing a policy. Here in case you need help(see below), also NSAC allows it as well.....which is why sanctioned fights mentioned above were allowed.

                      We have seen an increase in inquires at USADA about the use of Intravenous (IV) Infusions for this purpose, and would like to assist athletes and medical personnel by offering education. In accordance with the WADA Prohibited List (Category M2 Chemical and Physical Manipulation), all IV infusions and/or injections of more than 50mL (~3.4 tablespoons) per 6-hour period are prohibited, except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations. IV infusions and/or injections of more than 50mL per 6-hour period are prohibited at all times, both in- and out-of-competition unless the athlete has applied for and been granted a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) under the applicable anti-doping rules. Further, if a prohibited substance that is administered intravenously or via injection, a TUE is necessary for this substance regardless of volume.

                      Some reports suggest that administration of IV infusions, including dietary supplement and vitamin ****tails, are being provided to athletes for recuperation, recovery or lifestyle reasons. This medical practice is prohibited at all times without prior TUE approval. WADA has justified the inclusion of IV infusions on the Prohibited List given the intent of some athletes to manipulate their plasma volume levels in order to mask the use of a prohibited substance and/or to distort the values in the Athlete Biological Passport. Further, it must be clearly stated that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild rehydration or help speed recovery is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific opinion to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice. Legitimate medical indications for IV infusions are well documented and are most commonly associated with medical emergencies (emergency TUE), in-patient care, surgery, or clinical investigations for diagnostic purposes.


                      Its sad as hell when you post black and white facts and mfers still are in denial.
                      Last edited by Calabis; 05-23-2015, 08:50 PM.

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