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    #81
    No Excuses. Manny and Roach had to know that anything less than 100% would equal a guaranteed loss.

    How can you possibly think you could go into a fight with Floyd with 1 wing and feel you have a chance?

    He may have injured himself at some stage during camp, but felt it got better and he felt good going into the fight. If he re-injured it during the fight it is just a battle scar and does not warrant a rematch.

    Maybe it is just me, but them claiming he was "less than" now, going into the fight, should make Manny fans who shelled out giant money, feel a little pi$$ed off.

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      #82
      Originally posted by T18Z View Post
      He was allowed to take the medication during training, just not during the fight.

      Furthermore, there were reports among all boxing media members that reliable sources said Pacquaio had been injured during sparring and is taking time off training. You know this is a fact and it adds to the credibility of the injury being legit. You've also got his sparring partner backing up the claim, for whatever that is worth.

      Postponing the biggest financial match in boxing history is ludicrious, it'd be moved to a worser date than the mexican holiday, thousands of people would lose out on money for booked accommodation, expenses and everything else involved. There is also the risk Mayweather cancels the fight, claiming Pacquaio 'never wanted the fight'.

      Cancelling a fight of this magnitude is just not on the menu, otherwise I'm sure Floyd would have done the same with his injured hands, but the difference is he was and always has been able to take the numbing agent in his hands before his fights, so it makes no difference to him.

      Pacquaio and his team were under the assumption they would be able to take the numbing shot they'd been using previously on the night of the fight, thus the immense pain the injury causes would be nullified during the fight. Instead, he was denied it, hurt it in round 4 again during his combination and the rest is history.

      As a final point, I also believe Mayweather and his camp knew about the leaked injury, and that was the case for Mayweather intentionally clinching and pulling on his arm early on in the fight, which everyone can see.

      I'd like to see a rematch, it makes financial sense and could set up a potential trilogy. He gave other fighters rematches, heck he gave Maidana one. Mayweather would be the heavy favorite, but is there anyone honestly more worthy of a rematch than Pacquaio? Let's not be ******, the fight makes sense, even if the fight was a dud and Pacquaio was delusional about thinking he won.
      Well put. Not a single flo-mo has directly responded to your post and are just saying the same things over and over..

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        #83
        Originally posted by King_ View Post
        Yeah there was no urgency and he didn't go for broke at all.... but even if he was going to fight as "relaxed" as he did, he could of still had more success if his approach to getting to Floyd was a bit different. There were no feints, no footwork to create himself some better angles. It was just an all around lazy and sloppy approach and they literally fought Floyd as if he was just gonna stand there and block punches with his head
        I was pretty surprised I didn't see some wild swings from Pac in Rd 12. Not saying much different would have happened, but dam bruh.

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          #84
          Question: Who cares?
          Answer: Only those trying to justify that dismal performance by manny.

          Question: So if the mystery injury happened in round 3, what happened to the volume punching game plan in rounds 1 & 2?
          Answer: He tasted Floyd's right and the plan went out the window.

          The few times that flashed to th ecorner roach was not imporing him to utilize the 'gameplan". Floyd was suppose to get knocked out if he jabbed to the body, per roach - - - ha, how well did that go?

          At this point just let it go and move on, next they will present someone else's MRI as pac's to gain sympathy, but the fact still remains....

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            #85
            Originally posted by BrometheusBob View Post
            Well put. Not a single flo-mo has directly responded to your post and are just saying the same things over and over..
            Yeah, I noticed all of the Mayweather supporters criticizing Pacquaio heavily just casually brushed by my post and continue to spout nonsense without consideration for the circumstances.

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              #86
              >...what happened to the volume punching game plan in rounds 1 & 2?
              Heh, saying that he didn't do well in 2 rounds is not evidence that all subsequent rounds would be the same. They say class tells over time, and by time they didn't mean 2 rounds.

              > Answer: Only those trying to justify that dismal performance by manny.
              I mean yeah, that's exactly what they are trying to do. I don't get the point of this comment. They know he didn't do that well and are trying to explain what happened.

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                #87
                Originally posted by T18Z View Post
                Yeah, I noticed all of the Mayweather supporters criticizing Pacquaio heavily just casually brushed by my post and continue to spout nonsense without consideration for the circumstances.
                Lol they don't care, they'll just run with the victory..

                It always happens, people get caught up in the "just excuses" camp because of how big the anticipation has been, but something just "felt" off about the fight, after the 4th round flurry Pac didn't go for it and backed off and Floyd did pull his arm in the first round.

                Any other fight they would have postponed it but a fight of this magnitude was never going to be postponed by the "B side"

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by FightTalent View Post
                  Question: Who cares?
                  Answer: Only those trying to justify that dismal performance by manny.

                  Question: So if the mystery injury happened in round 3, what happened to the volume punching game plan in rounds 1 & 2?
                  Answer: He tasted Floyd's right and the plan went out the window.

                  The few times that flashed to th ecorner roach was not imporing him to utilize the 'gameplan". Floyd was suppose to get knocked out if he jabbed to the body, per roach - - - ha, how well did that go?

                  At this point just let it go and move on, next they will present someone else's MRI as pac's to gain sympathy, but the fact still remains....
                  The injury happened in round 4 during the combination.

                  Nobody is discrediting the fact the Pacquaio performed badly. His corner should've urged him more, he shouldn't of spent the first 2 rounds feeling Mayweather out, and someone should've told him he was losing the fight at round 10 and to throw caution to the wind.

                  However, what I'm saying is don't be so silly to assume Pacquaio's injury isn't legit. There was multiple reports and leaks of an injury in Pacquaios camp posted over twitter, his sparring partner also gave further details and confirmation. Finally, Pacquaio and his team made the the governing body aware of the injury weeks before the fight. Why would they do that if it wasn't legit? Don't be ****** now; most of the signs point to a legitimate, serious injury. How much did it affect him exactly during the fight? We don't know.
                  Last edited by T18Z; 05-04-2015, 08:25 AM.

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                    #89
                    Injuries happen. In camp and in the ring. No one diminishes Hagler's win over Hearns because Hearns broke his hand. It's just a lame ass excuse from a fighter who always has one when he loses and a fan base in need of some Ben Gay.

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                      #90
                      Didn't he break his hand during the fight? Am I wrong for thinking that isn't comparable?

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