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Is Ray Robinson really "TBE"? How u know if none of you were alive back then..
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Originally posted by mrlopez View PostIf Leonard says SRR was the best, who are you to argue differently?
Nobody wants to hear him say, "Actually I'm better than Robinson."
That's not his style.
But he beat the better fighters by far. And I think Leonard was every bit as good as Robinson, if not even better.
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Originally posted by tusc1976 View Post- IF WE ACTUALLY NEVER SEEN THE FIGHTER FIGHT THEN, HE AINT TBE TO ME --- My great grandfather told me he was good should I believe tall tales and *****
I can watch every fight MIKE Tyson had and at age 19 he destroyed almost every top heavy weight and since I can rewatch it and watch IMMA say he's ****ing great --- I can only see a hand full off Robinson ---- he's great to my great grandfather but not to me..sorry.
U guys can't name 5 greats he's fought and 5 of those U won't be able to me their legacy traits --- why cause u don't know robinsons greatness except what old timers say..
The only greats U should be talking about is people U can actually say U seen but if u ain't seen it UR going off another dudes word of mouth play --- make your own mind up instead of what old histtorians say
07/41: Sammy Angott (#1 LW) @ 135 IBHOF
10/41: Fritzie Zivic (#3 WW) IBHOF
01/42: Fritzie Zivic (#3 WW) IBHOF
03/42: Norman Rubio (#10 WW)
07/42: Sammy Angott (LW Champ) @ 147 IBHOF
08/42: Tony Mutisi (#9 WW)
10/42: Jake LaMotta (#6 MW) IBHOF
10/42: Izzy Jannazzo (#8 WW)
12/42: Izzy Jannazzo (#8 WW)
02/43: Jake LaMotta (#2 MW) IBHOF L
02/43: Jackie Wilson (#3 WW)
02/43: Jake LaMotta (#2 MW) IBHOF
08/43: Henry Armstrong (#1 WW 1944) IBHOF
10/44: Izzy Jannazaro (#8 WW)
09/45: Jake LaMotta (#2 MW) IBHOF
03/46: Sammy Angott (#8 WW) IBHOF
12/46: Tommy Bell (World WW Championship)
05/47: Georgie Abrams (#5 MW) WBHOF
06/47: Jimmy Doyle (#7 WW)
06/48: Bernard Docusen (#3 WW)
09/48: Kid Gavilan (#1 WW) @ 150+ IBHOF
07/49: Kid Gavilan (#1 WW) IBHOF
08/49: Steve Belloise (#2 MW)
04/50: Ray Barnes (#7 MW)
06/50: Robert Villemain (#3 MW)
08/50: Charley Fusari (#3 WW)
02/51: Jake LaMotta (World MW Champion) IBHOF
07/51: Randy Turpin (#1 MW) IBHOF L
09/51: Randy Turpin (World MW Champion) IBHOF
03/52: Carl Olson (#2 MW) IBHOF
04/52: Rocky Graziano (#10 MW) IBHOF
06/52: Joey Maxim (World LHW Champion) IBHOF L
07/55: Ralph Castellani (#2 MW)
12/55: Carl Olson (World MW Champion) IBHOF
05/56: Carl Olson (#1 MW) IBHOF
01/57: Gene Fullmer (#1 MW) IBHOF L
05/57: Gene Fullmer (World MW Champion) IBHOF
09/57: Carmen Basilio IBHOF L
03/58: Carmen Basilio (World MW Champion) IBHOF
Note: I just copy it on a different site who posted this. I also added the IBHOF/WBHOF status of his opponents.
Edit: I made a mistake, he lose some of those fight.
Edit 2: I added his lossesLast edited by gamesworn; 02-22-2015, 02:18 PM.
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Originally posted by mrlopez View PostIf Leonard says SRR was the best, who are you to argue differently?
People forgot to mention those old timers fought 5 plus a year, even with a cab fighter they would suffer a great lost on their mileage.
Imagine if the new generation like Floyd fought for just 4 times a year he would gotten a lost from a bum too!
Nobody is invincible in boxing... period!
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Originally posted by tusc1976 View Post- IF WE ACTUALLY NEVER SEEN THE FIGHTER FIGHT THEN, HE AINT TBE TO ME --- My great grandfather told me he was good should I believe tall tales and *****
I can watch every fight MIKE Tyson had and at age 19 he destroyed almost every top heavy weight and since I can rewatch it and watch IMMA say he's ****ing great --- I can only see a hand full off Robinson ---- he's great to my great grandfather but not to me..sorry.
U guys can't name 5 greats he's fought and 5 of those U won't be able to me their legacy traits --- why cause u don't know robinsons greatness except what old timers say..
The only greats U should be talking about is people U can actually say U seen but if u ain't seen it UR going off another dudes word of mouth play --- make your own mind up instead of what old histtorians say
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Originally posted by Joe Beamish View PostLeonard is Mr. Respect. He's Mr. Class.
Nobody wants to hear him say, "Actually I'm better than Robinson."
That's not his style.
But he beat the better fighters by far. And I think Leonard was every bit as good as Robinson, if not even better.
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Originally posted by gamesworn View PostSRR Best Wins
This is a list that a guy compiled over at ESB (I'd give credit but I forget the poster's name).
07/41: Sammy Angott (#1 LW) @ 135 IBHOF
10/41: Fritzie Zivic (#3 WW) IBHOF
01/42: Fritzie Zivic (#3 WW) IBHOF
03/42: Norman Rubio (#10 WW)
07/42: Sammy Angott (LW Champ) @ 147 IBHOF
08/42: Tony Mutisi (#9 WW)
10/42: Jake LaMotta (#6 MW) IBHOF
10/42: Izzy Jannazzo (#8 WW)
12/42: Izzy Jannazzo (#8 WW)
02/43: Jake LaMotta (#2 MW) IBHOF
02/43: Jackie Wilson (#3 WW)
02/43: Jake LaMotta (#2 MW) IBHOF
08/43: Henry Armstrong (#1 WW 1944) IBHOF
10/44: Izzy Jannazaro (#8 WW)
09/45: Jake LaMotta (#2 MW) IBHOF
03/46: Sammy Angott (#8 WW) IBHOF
12/46: Tommy Bell (World WW Championship)
05/47: Georgie Abrams (#5 MW) WBHOF
06/47: Jimmy Doyle (#7 WW)
06/48: Bernard Docusen (#3 WW)
09/48: Kid Gavilan (#1 WW) @ 150+ IBHOF
07/49: Kid Gavilan (#1 WW) IBHOF
08/49: Steve Belloise (#2 MW)
04/50: Ray Barnes (#7 MW)
06/50: Robert Villemain (#3 MW)
08/50: Charley Fusari (#3 WW)
02/51: Jake LaMotta (World MW Champion) IBHOF
07/51: Randy Turpin (#1 MW) IBHOF
09/51: Randy Turpin (World MW Champion) IBHOF
03/52: Carl Olson (#2 MW) IBHOF
04/52: Rocky Graziano (#10 MW) IBHOF
06/52: Joey Maxim (World LHW Champion) IBHOF
07/55: Ralph Castellani (#2 MW)
12/55: Carl Olson (World MW Champion) IBHOF
05/56: Carl Olson (#1 MW) IBHOF
01/57: Gene Fullmer (#1 MW) IBHOF
05/57: Gene Fullmer (World MW Champion) IBHOF
09/57: Carmen Basilio IBHOF
03/58: Carmen Basilio (World MW Champion) IBHOF
Note: I just copy it on a different site who posted this. I also added the IBHOF/WBHOF status of his opponents.
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Originally posted by Joe Beamish View PostSRR MAY have been the best ever.
But as the OP asks: what are his best wins? He won a million fights. But who did he beat? Are his opponents really as great as:
Benitez
Duran
Hearns
Hagler
?
Originally posted by tusc1976 View Postlike i said, i only seen a handfull of his fights and that not enuff bruh
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