Is Ray Robinson really "TBE"? How u know if none of you were alive back then..

[tusc1976]

SRR MAY have been the best ever.

But as the OP asks: what are his best wins? He won a million fights. But who did he beat? Are his opponents really as great as:

Benitez
Duran
Hearns
Hagler

?

Buahahaha that SR LEONARD OPPONENTS GTFOH

[Joe Beamish]

Buahahaha that SR LEONARD OPPONENTS GTFOH

Correct. I'm saying Leonard beat better guys than Robinson did. From what I know.

[Targaryen]

I think you do kind of have a point.

There are attributes to a fighter, merits to their achievements which can't be gauged from videos on YouTube. Things can get lost with time.

It doesn't mean fair judgements can't be made to the greatness of a fighter, but we'll never have the complete picture that those who were around at the time had.

Theres fighters we'll appreciate now, more than future generations will in retrospect.

[tusc1976]

Correct. I'm saying Leonard beat better guys than Robinson did. From what I know.

exactly..these mofos be like SRR TBE and sh*** cuz some old historian told him so smh..

[5.4ever]

exactly..these mofos be like SRR TBE and sh*** cuz some old historian told him so smh..

Being TBE Is relevant

He was the best of his time

Louis of his

Ali of his

SRL/Duran of theirs

jones of his

Mayweather /pac of our time

So TBE is who you want it to be. Mine is

Ali
Louis
SRR
Jones

I'm talking favorites, styles

**** carefully made records and stats

It's how they fought and how they pleased me as a fan

[Joe Beamish]

Don't get me wrong -- huge respect to SRR -- Leonard himself (among other luminaries) has said SRR was the best of all time -- but they are all the type of person to respect their elders, so to speak.

But if you watch Youtube you'll see SRR beating up a lot of guys that probably would never have been good enough to get a shot at Leonard. Old school brawlers.

I don't think he ever beat a boxer as slick as Benitez, or knocked out a monster puncher with major boxing skills like Hearns. Or beat anyone as good as Duran.

And I don't think Jake LaMotta was remotely as good as Marvin Hagler.

[titan m]

We never actually saw a dinosaur running around either but that doesn't mean they didn't exist, you seem to think because everything that happened in the past wasn't captured on video it doesn't matter or it never happened.

There are plenty of SRR fights out there just not the ones from his best days and they were impressive enough, most people around in his time and after though he was the best as well as many boxing historians, you don't have to agree but you'd be in the minority.

[Joe Beamish]

Yeah, no one's answered the core question: Who were the best fighters that SRR defeated? And do they match up to the best fighters Leonard defeated?

[MrTambourineMan]

Yeah, no one's answered the core question: Who were the best fighters that SRR defeated? And do they match up to the best fighters Leonard defeated?

Zivic x2
Angott x3
Armstrong
LaMotta x4
Kid Gavilan x2
Turpin
Graziano
Maxim
Fullmer
Basillio
Olson x4

[mrlopez]

What makes the ts think he isnt if he hasnt educated himself about the subject?