Comments Thread For: Not So Fast On Miguel Cotto vs. Canelo Alvarez

[manoamano]

Sad thing when big fights depend on who's the "A" side and who's the "B" side.

Although I consider Cotto to have been the best WW (if not for the Margaret fight). Cotto is acting like a little princess. It's clear that he doesn't want to face Canelo and much rather consider loosing a second time to Floyd for the money than facing a Mexican.

It makes me sick how these guys consider themselves great fighters, future legends and brave when their actions say the contrary.

Shame on you Cotto!

[SUBZER0ED]

Cotto vs Canelo/ Pacman vs Floyd is all I want. Those 2 fights need to happen point blank period

I know, but the guys at that level are divas. So I'm not holding my breath until they're in the ring(s)

Isn't it a shame when we have top fighters who act like and are considered "divas"? What b1tches these men are!

[Johnny Rubber]

But he has a contract with HBO (according to Kevin Iole).
This makes Cotto-Mayweather 2 impossible...

Good, Cotto was convincingly UD'ed last time. Totally pointless fight for both.

[JakeNDaBox]

This article is trying to make it seem like Cotto is left in the dark from negotiations which is hardly the case. I'm sure he gave Canelo his demands and Canelo has agreed to them. A few weeks back canelo or Oscar admitted that the negotiations were difficult because of Cotto's demands. I'm sure Oscar, Canelo, and Bob are well aware of Cotto's terms. If there is no problem with the negotiations I'm sure Cotto will agree to fight. Mayweather is irrelevant at this point, he has no claim on that date and I doubt Cotto cares whether Mayweather fights on Mexican holidays.

Cotto's not in the dark, but the part where Oscar and Arum claim resolution is reached, is met with this contradiction from Arum:

“We’re still negotiating. Miguel has not been informed yet of various details of the negotiations and everything is progressing favorably. But it has to take a little bit more time. We have to go through the process.?br />
With that:
1) How can Oscar/Canelo have agreed to terms if the fight is still being negotiated?
2) What demands have been met, if various details of the negotiation have not yet made its way back to Cotto?
3) How can Arum have nothing to do all with negotiations (as he's claimed), yet a conversation between he and Oscar result in a major step forward?

What I get out of the conversation is that Arum gave Oscar advice on how to get over the major roadblockS. That's all. The rest is posturing, and Canelo's side (or maybe just Oscar) trying to make it seem like it's now all on Cotto to make this fight happen.

If Richard Schaefer were still with Golden Boy, he'd have rightfully slapped a gag order on everyone. Although I guess if he were still with GBP, this fight wouldn't be discussed at all.

[Da Boxer]

Cotto - Canelo or Cotto - Floyd, make either one happen NOW!

[Johnny Rubber]

Isn't it a shame when we have top fighters who act like and are considered "divas"? What b1tches these men are!

It's shameful really. The past champs must be smiling at the absurdity of it all and the effect it has had on boxing as a serious sport.

I miss the days of pride before ppv........

[Beater_of_ass]

I said it before, Canelo will give in to ridiculous demands not because he is the B-side but because he wants the legacy.

That said, I am sure that will be a motivating factor in the way the fight will play out. Canelo is going to try to punish this guy, and if he does, he will get no credit

I've never seen Canelo punish anyone except a D-class shot to **** bum in Angulo or 140 pound Josesito Lopez when Canelo fought him at 154. But now he's supposed to punish the second best fighter he ever face when the best fighter he faced didn't even let him win a round? Man, the Canelo fan base is as delusional as Khan thinking he deserves a Mayweather fight.

[Wolfie*]

Cotto's not in the dark, but the part where Oscar and Arum claim resolution is reached, is met with this contradiction from Arum:

“We’re still negotiating. Miguel has not been informed yet of various details of the negotiations and everything is progressing favorably. But it has to take a little bit more time. We have to go through the process.?br />
With that:
1) How can Oscar/Canelo have agreed to terms if the fight is still being negotiated?
2) What demands have been met, if various details of the negotiation have not yet made its way back to Cotto?
3) How can Arum have nothing to do all with negotiations (as he's claimed), yet a conversation between he and Oscar result in a major step forward?

What I get out of the conversation is that Arum gave Oscar advice on how to get over the major roadblockS. That's all. The rest is posturing, and Canelo's side (or maybe just Oscar) trying to make it seem like it's now all on Cotto to make this fight happen.

If Richard Schaefer were still with Golden Boy, he'd have rightfully slapped a gag order on everyone. Although I guess if he were still with GBP, this fight wouldn't be discussed at all.

Isn't Todd Duboef the one that is negotiating on behalf of top rank along with Cotto's management? Don't you suspect him of telling Bob of Cotto's demands? You might be right, maybe Arum just gave Oscar advice while Oscar was working with Todd Duboef. The thing I don't get is who's terms Canelo agreed to? Obviously not his own right? Like I said, Cotto most likely gave them what he want and Canelo agreed to it. The only thing I can think of is the venue but since it's coming from Arum take it with a grain of salt, he said both guys are open to a venue as long as it generate the most money. By the other reports surfacing, it sounds like it's closer to being signed than further.

[MrRolltide91]

Cotto's not in the dark, but the part where Oscar and Arum claim resolution is reached, is met with this contradiction from Arum:

“We’re still negotiating. Miguel has not been informed yet of various details of the negotiations and everything is progressing favorably. But it has to take a little bit more time. We have to go through the process.?br />
With that:
1) How can Oscar/Canelo have agreed to terms if the fight is still being negotiated?
2) What demands have been met, if various details of the negotiation have not yet made its way back to Cotto?
3) How can Arum have nothing to do all with negotiations (as he's claimed), yet a conversation between he and Oscar result in a major step forward?

What I get out of the conversation is that Arum gave Oscar advice on how to get over the major roadblockS. That's all. The rest is posturing, and Canelo's side (or maybe just Oscar) trying to make it seem like it's now all on Cotto to make this fight happen.

If Richard Schaefer were still with Golden Boy, he'd have rightfully slapped a gag order on everyone. Although I guess if he were still with GBP, this fight wouldn't be discussed at all.

Yea it does sound strange

[Beater_of_ass]

Isn't Todd Duboef the one that is negotiating on behalf of top rank along with Cotto's management? Don't you suspect him of telling Bob of Cotto's demands? You might be right, maybe Arum just gave Oscar advice while Oscar was working with Todd Duboef. The thing I don't get is who's terms Canelo agreed to? Obviously not his own right? Like I said, Cotto most likely gave them what he want and Canelo agreed to it. The only thing I can think of is the venue but since it's coming from Arum take it with a grain of salt, he said both guys are open to a venue as long as it generate the most money. By the other reports surfacing, it sounds like it's closer to being signed than further.

This "report" was from Ring ****zine who is owned by Oscar. It's clearly a way to keep Canelo relevant while Cotto negotiates with Floyd. The article is literally Canelo simply agree'ing to actually fight Cotto and nothing more. You can't title a story saying "Agree to all of Cotto's demands" then in the same story say "We need to talk about the venue."

From everything we've read all I see is Oscar going to Arum and asking him to get something to work out. Too bad for Arum and something that should get fl*mo's to be fans of Cotto is... he's actually his own boss. He has no contract with anyone and he is simply having people he is comfortable with represetning him. It really shouldn't come as a surprise that it's Todd and Arum not involved. Arum basically severed any relationship he had with Cotto after the wrap scandal and I think he sealed the deal with the CW in the Manny fight. Arum really has nothing to do with Cotto anymore, it's all Todd.