Mayweather is better than Marquez, but will do much worst against Pacquaio.

[Evol]

actually it was, here's the whole quote "You got Mayweather, an African American that don't give a damn that's a faster fighter than Pacquiao is. I think he would have beat the daylights out of Pacquiao, but I knew what I was doing by avoiding those types of fights for Pacquiao".- Murad Mohammed (Pacquiao's promoter B4 ARum)

so pac been ducking mayweather for a lot longer than you care to admit (here's the proof)

where in that statement did he said thats why he kept pac away from floyd??

[Evol]

actually it was, here's the whole quote "You got Mayweather, an African American that don't give a damn that's a faster fighter than Pacquiao is. I think he would have beat the daylights out of Pacquiao, but I knew what I was doing by avoiding those types of fights for Pacquiao".- Murad Mohammed (Pacquiao's promoter B4 ARum)

so pac been ducking mayweather for a lot longer than you care to admit (here's the proof)

arum: floyd jr is the best fighter ever

floyd leaves arum

arum: floyd is NOT the best fighter ever


what did u expect murah mohandahjdwahdh to say? LOL

[Luilun]

Technical summary


Mayweather is obviously the superior fighter to Marquez. I don't think anyone should be debating that. What people do need to understand is that Mayweather is a fantastic counter puncher defensive fighter that people mistakenly link to Marquez's own counter punching style. They are totally different and one style have always caused Pacquiao trouble, the other will not.


They are completely different fighters who set up their counters completely differently.

First off, the key for Marquez against Pacquiao has always been his constant lateral movement. Not only does he constantly sway at a low center of gravity while rotating away from Pac's left, but he pivots out of range and changes the angle after landing an attack, or even in the middle of an exchange, to completely confuse Pacquiao and take away his ability to take the initiative with his amazingly swift footwork. He does this so much so that in the second half of the fight, he caught Pacquiao with a left hook pretty much behind the head because of how he was able to laterally shift away from an oncoming Manny.


Mayweather on the other hand is a more conventional "slick" counter-puncher who relies on his control of distance to anticipate and neutralize his opponent. While he's brilliant in reading his opponent and measuring his own punches against their own, he usually does this either going straight backwards or straight forwards, with efficient footwork. He has habituated himself to fighting in straight lines in order to land his favorite punches; lead right hands, pull-counters, jabs to the body, counter or lead left hooks, or counter-right uppercuts when swarmed. But one thing Mayweather almost never shows is the type of lateral movement Marquez shows.


De La Hoya, while still game, had an offensive gameplan that relied a lot on mere feints and swarms of activity to back Floyd up, and he usually did so with no problem. Even after Mayweather adjusted to his rhythm and started winning rounds, he hardly ever looked impressive and was backing up consistently without ever shifting towards a laterally-minded gameplan. Wouldn't that have made things easier for him instead of constantly giving up the center and having to retreat to the ropes to counter before escaping? Someone with the style of Hopkins (as in VS Pavlik), for example, would prefer such tactics, and Floyd seems to prefer seeing his opponent right in front of him, positioning himself right in front.



This comfort zone does not appear to be a preferred strategy for someone who can rotate so quickly and match Floyd speed for speed with plenty of pop behind it.(Manny)

This leads into my second point, which is that Marquez's movement allows him to get Pacquiao on the inside and punish him. As an in-the-pocket counter-puncher, Marquez can duck under and find himself body-to-body with pacquiao and take advantage of his unpolished inside game. Uppercuts, combinations, and even spots of controlled aggression (before pivoting out) are something that he can do because of his relatively similar size to Pacquiao.

Now, while people point to Mayweather's reach giving Pacquiao issues, I don't believe he'll be able to use it to control Pacquiao if he shows his regular movement. Floyd's accurate and reflexive, but his defensive stance by nature anchors his back foot to the canvas, and allows someone as fleet-footed as Pacquiao to change the punching angle and capitalize for an offensive opportunity.

Fighting in straight lines is not the way to beat Pacquiao; you have to take away the punching angle, and I don't think at all that Floyd can circle as well as he can back-pedal.

On top of all of this is tempo. While Marquez was able to control pace from time to time, he was still able to fluidly exchange with Pacquiao and see the angles in order to time the better shots while rolling with Pac's own. Mayweather, as skilled and tough and intuitive as he is, has not shown this quality in abundance. The times he's been hurt actually, have been times he's over-committed to his own punches (Corely, Judah, Mosley). He can adjust brilliantly round-to-round, but as controversial as it may sound, I feel he lacks this sort of intangible fluidity Marquez has in his approach.


Once again Floyd is the superior fighter to Marquez but he lack the particular attributes that Marquez have in the counter punching game that have so enabled Marquez to be Manny's biggest nightmare.

You know I agree with you but if your going to get a Floydtard to read what you just wrote good luck with that cause those fanatics can barley read 3rd grade

[MRCHOKEaMF]

where in that statement did he said thats why he kept pac away from floyd??

. I think he would have beat the daylights out of Pacquiao, but I knew what I was doing by avoiding those types of fights for Pacquiao"
reading is fundamental

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

what an idiot. Remember this a$$wipe:

here we go, this is where i exit!!!!!!!!!

[SplitSecond]

I do not see him using his earmuff defense a lot against Manny because of his size and reach. Manny's best attribute is his feet. Manny is a pretty conventional fighter now, but his feet are great. Manny's problem will be when he steps forward what will FMJ do? Marquez would move back and make Manny reset and also counter off that movement. Remember the knockout. FMJ can implement JMM's same game plan but to me FMJ does not have to move as much. Watch the JMM fight. FMJ treats shorter fighters that fight at distance like little kids. To me, that is the worry for Manny. Can he reach FMJ. Will his combinations become predictable? There was plenty of times when JMM was in close to with FMJ and he just parried all JMM punches.

what about cotto, or maidana? they are short, did he treat them like little kids?

and i think pacquiao's style is a little more similar to those two(cotto esspecially being a left hand dominant fighter), dont you think? why compare pacquiao with jmm?

[MRCHOKEaMF]

here we go, this is where i exit!!!!!!!!!

right, when they get hit with statements and they're backed up with quotes, they do nothing but start calling names, but It was good while it lasted

[Evol]

. I think he would have beat the daylights out of Pacquiao, but I knew what I was doing by avoiding those types of fights for Pacquiao"
reading is fundamental

nowhere did he mention floyd. when he was pac's promoter they were in different weight classes. perphaps u need to extend ur subscription to hooked on phonics?

[HeroBando]

What an idiot. Remember this a$$wipe:
TIM SMITH, COLUMNIST FROM THE DAILY NEWS REPORTED THAT Pacquiao’s camp sent TWO emails to the Mayweather Camp, the first asked” what will the Penalty if Pacquiao test positive on the drug test.” The second email:” If he does test positive can they keep it quiet for the betterment of boxing”

No email produced. Face it ******, everyone in boxing is doped up including your cowardly hero, but very few offenders have the cheek to point finger at others like that POS. Remember caychweights?

[Hype job]

. I think he would have beat the daylights out of Pacquiao, but I knew what I was doing by avoiding those types of fights for Pacquiao"
reading is fundamental

Lol u keep repeating this copy and paste ish, that dude is just a bitter crook, as seen in the Manny movie, funnelling funds, all sorts of crooked ass ****.