Rigondeaux: I beat you down and you don't touch me

[ea22]

Miguel Vazquez?? That guy is an excessive clincher with an atrocious style, no grace whatsoever, sloppy as hell. There is no comparison except that they both use their legs. Get out of here with that crap.



Marquez did not go through a public image execution from those which were supposed to promote him. There is a huge difference.

Marquez was not a popular fighter before he strictly boxed, he changed his style and look at him now. Golovkin is from Kazakhstan and look at the following he has garnered because of his "Mexican style". Gamboa is from Cuba and he was very popular when he was rising up the ranks and knocking people out. When Jack Dempsey fought Gene Tunney, even when he got beat, people still liked him more than Tunney because of his style. No one gives a **** about his Rigo's nationality, you need to deal with that.

Rigo is tremendously skilled, when I watched him fight Donaire I was in awe of his skills, but you have to undestand that as great as he looks, if he simply coasts to a decision the fight will get boring. Rigo vs Agbenko (or whatever his name is) literally put me to sleep for a few minutes, Rigo completely outclassed Agbenko and yet refused to apply some pressure when the guy obviously has no fight in him. If he wants to become more popular he needs to take more risks, simple as that.

[blacraven]

yes thats the concept, to hit and not get hit. but u including rigo is not seeing the fact that rigo expects to be paid. he is not fighting for free is he? well if people is paying to watch him fight, they want to some some knock outs, etc. when people throw a party for a fight, most people there is getting their drink on, buzzing having a good time. aint nobody want to sit and watch a boxing display for 12 rounds. u know how much of a mood killer that is?

Remind me to NEVER go to one of your fight parties.
I'm completely ecstatic to see a boxing master class for 12 rounds, the KO is just the icing on the cake if it happens.

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

Seeing a boxer like Rigondeux dominate almost every fight he gets may seem boring but that's not his fault. He just needs better competition. Put him up against an opponent that can make it challenging, THEN fans will be interested in his fights.

And to the people who keep saying "this is a business" and "sports are about entertainment" and "something for casual fans"...look, this isn't WWE. This is a real sport where athletes are trained and come to win, to not put on a show. Even boxers who want to be exciting know that winning comes first.

If it's HOW a boxer wins, then that's a different story and I personally have no problem with the way Rigondeaux wins. As already pointed out, he doesn't clinch his way to a win like some boxers do. He makes his opponent miss and make them pay for it too. He's doing what he's suppose to do and that's what I want to see from a pure boxer.

I like rigo......but he's full of **** here!!
Everybody including Mexicans knows boxing is hit and not get hit. But it's the way you avoid getting hit that can change the fan base of a fighter. Or even the way you hit.

And he does both of those things just fine.

[damit305]

Vazquez is more a runner, he's become more of a clincher in his last couple of fights, but that's the type of style he tried to emphasize hit and don't get hit, obviously rigo can do it better. Vasquez even said he incorporated that style after visiting Cuba.

Jmm kinda did bro, he lost promoters, both morales, Barrera, and the prince refused to acknowledge. Dude even lost titles bc he couldn't find anybody to defend them against.

Stop using the whole Mexican style bs.

Vazquez had a decent run, I was impressed with some of his wins, vs Gesta for example. Overall he should not even be mentioned in the same sentence with Rigo.

Marquez did not endure a fraction of the promotional issues that Rigo has had to so far. Stop it.
One thing is to not attract your full fan base because of a more conservative style than the norm or what these fans are used to seeing, another is to be intentionally demoted in public and suggesting to naive fans of the sport "not to watch" by discrediting wins and attacking the mans style.

[damit305]

I like rigo......but he's full of **** here!!
Everybody including Mexicans knows boxing is hit and not get hit. But it's the way you avoid getting hit that can change the fan base of a fighter. Or even the way you hit.

"Everybody" is not correct. Not ALL of them know or understand this or even agree with this. It's very clear on these forums.
They would prefer a more offensive style, until their favorite fighter loses.

[Showtime..]

Just re-watched the whole Donaire-Rigo fight. Rigo can clearly be beat. Every fighter has a style that they would struggle with & Rigo isn't an exception to that.

The reason he wiped the floor with Donaire is because stylistically Donaire was a walk in the park for Rigo, as Donaire never pumped a good jab & didn't throw nearly enough.

[damit305]

Just re-watched the whole Donaire-Rigo fight. Rigo can clearly be beat. Every fighter has a style that they would struggle with & Rigo isn't an exception to that.

The reason he wiped the floor with Donaire is because stylistically Donaire was a walk in the park for Rigo, as Donaire never pumped a good jab & didn't throw nearly enough.

Hindsight is a beautiful thing. No fighter is invincible although some fighters have had the fortune of retiring undefeated.
There will always be scrutiny and doubt filled with what ifs.

[MDPopescu]

Just re-watched the whole Donaire-Rigo fight. Rigo can clearly be beat. Every fighter has a style that they would struggle with & Rigo isn't an exception to that.

The reason he wiped the floor with Donaire is because stylistically Donaire was a walk in the park for Rigo, as Donaire never pumped a good jab & didn't throw nearly enough.

Of course Rigo is beatable -- just look how they are crowding to fight him and beat the hell out of him...

[Eastcoast]

Of course Rigo is beatable -- just look how they are crowding to fight him and beat the hell out of him...

If guys could make over half a mill to fight him, there'd be a crowd. TR settled for Agbeko because HBO was putting up enough money for a better name. From a financial perspective, Frampton, Quigg, and Cruz are possibly the A-side in a potential Rigo match up. That supposed Roc Nations offer may have been his last chance.

[Konstantin]

Marquez was not a popular fighter before he strictly boxed, he changed his style and look at him now. Golovkin is from Kazakhstan and look at the following he has garnered because of his "Mexican style". Gamboa is from Cuba and he was very popular when he was rising up the ranks and knocking people out. When Jack Dempsey fought Gene Tunney, even when he got beat, people still liked him more than Tunney because of his style. No one gives a **** about his Rigo's nationality, you need to deal with that.

Rigo is tremendously skilled, when I watched him fight Donaire I was in awe of his skills, but you have to undestand that as great as he looks, if he simply coasts to a decision the fight will get boring. Rigo vs Agbenko (or whatever his name is) literally put me to sleep for a few minutes, Rigo completely outclassed Agbenko and yet refused to apply some pressure when the guy obviously has no fight in him. If he wants to become more popular he needs to take more risks, simple as that.

This is all there is to him not being popular. He had Agbenko completely shelled up and outclassed but couldnt finish him.

Imagine what GGG would have done in that situation. He would CREATE holes in Abgenko's defense with his offense. But Rigo has no interest in that. He's perfectly fine with sitting back and stalling the rest of the fight after he's won.

That's the reason one of them is a rising star and the other isnt.