Comments Thread For: What is Al Haymon Planning?

[SUBZER0ED]

Do you mind me asking on how Haymon possibly shifting money around made it into the article when there wasn't a source, even anonymously, saying that in the piece? It's just Hauser speculating and that's a pretty big speculation.

You can PM me it too if you'd rather.

What you may not realize, is that Hauser said what he said for a reason. He very likely didn't just pull this stuff out of his bum. Don't be surprised if he does in fact have sources for his information, whom or which he simply doesn't reference here for litigation's sake. Some sources may not wish to be cited, even anonymously. There's a method to the madness.

[IMDAZED]

Of course you don't have a problem with Haymon being a mysterious sly character you give it a pass because he is black. if it were a non black guy you would say something is fishy here, just like how you go on these su****ious lack of evidence no proof attacks on Pacquiao being a juicer, you seem to be A okay with that stuff. Yet you will go above and beyond to give a black person the benefit of doubt. You are a flat out racist Floyd fan.

But oh no don't you ever dare question a powerful black man its wrong!

Dude is shady man, has nothing to do with color just stop with your cognitive bias and race paranoia Dunn.

Such an insecure boy, you are.

[AddiX]

then why not just say that?

Again, with all due respect, I don't see how you could read this articla and say Hauser is saying Haymon is good at his job. You as the reader may have deduced this, but Haquser doesn't say it.

Smh give it up..

If I said lebron James is "scary good", would you take that as a negative comment?

[The Big Dunn]

Of course you don't have a problem with Haymon being a mysterious sly character you give it a pass because he is black. if it were a non black guy you would say something is fishy here, just like how you go on these su****ious lack of evidence no proof attacks on Pacquiao being a juicer, you seem to be A okay with that stuff. Yet you will go above and beyond to give a black person the benefit of doubt. You are a flat out racist Floyd fan.

But oh no don't you ever dare question a powerful black man its wrong!

Dude is shady man, has nothing to do with color just stop with your cognitive bias and race paranoia Dunn.

More charachter assaination to defelct from the point because I am not a manny fan. Typical Hectari.

The thread isn't about Manny.

I didn't realize in talking to him I was talking to one of those Afro-centric, paranoid, "hood smart" people.

Now it all makes sense. Thanks.

THat you would base your opinon on Hectari's post and not my comments to you is shameful. Is what it is.

As I said, I find it hard to believe that you think at any point in this article auser was complimentary about al's intelligence.

[The Big Dunn]

Smh give it up..

If I said lebron James is "scary good", would you take that as a negative comment?

It's all in the context you use it dude, you know this.

If you said Lebron is scary good by itself-we agree you could be using it positively to describe how his talent strikes fear in his opposition. Thats why in the previous post I said its usually not used as a positive-I didn't say always.

Now if you used that in an article that clearly isn't complimentary toward Lebron- obviously it would be received differently. Besides, Hauser didn't write it-he got it from someone he interviewed for an article about "what haymon is planning".

He followed it with- Hes also adept at telling people what they want to hear, a good listener, and very much into control. Seems to me he is criticizing him for bing manipulativbe-not celebnrating his genius.

I gave you the whole 1st paragraph and I assumed you read the whole article so you had complete context. Reading it, I just don't see how you determined its complimentary. we can just agree to disagree.

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Thats why this article is so problematic despite being very well written. Hauser isn't focusing on the fact that the fighters he advises, expanding showtime and NBC platform, and the fact he gets fighters more money would all be good for boxing. He's basically upset that Al doing this would benefit Al financially and make him more powerful.
Uh-why does Bob do what he does-to make money and gain more influence. Is it only wrong when Haymon does it? When GBP or Main events get a deal with Foxsports or NBCsports-is that a bad thing? Of course not.

I think it has something to do with the ethical aspect of what Haymon is doing. The big eye-opener for me is the apparent crossing the line of advisor and promoter. Haymon appears to be performing promoter's tasks under the guise of being an advisor. Also, Haymon's apparent attempt to get the lion's share of big name boxers under his banner is a matter of concern. In other types of business, this might be seen as an attempt to form a monopoly, which would likely meet resistance from the SEC. Monopolies almost always result in consumers paying more for less. As a fan, I would be highly disappointed if Haymon's rise in power amounts to lackluster fights at premium prices. We'll have to wait and see how all of this plays out.

[Banderivets]

Surprised at all the Haymon supporters on here.

It takes one look to tell that he is a crooked gangster that get's his money from God knows where, which I have no issue with personally because so are the rest of these guys, but what I do have an issue with is any kind of monopolization move that would make boxing into UFC.

It is not a mater of "well he is the best of the worst", that is the most terrible approach to anything in life. He's faucking crooked schemer and should be called out for it, just like the rest of them, which at best serves the purpose of potentially turning these guys into semi-legit businessmen with the well being of the fighters and the demands of the consumers close at heart.

Selling of 2 tickets? For real...it's like those hustlers who flip birds but will go out to nip an oz just to make a little extra.....greasy ****.

Any money Haymon is so crooked that if the right agencies looked deep enough he'd be doing 30 years, that's keeping in mind US leniency towards financial crime.


Ideally what we need is independent managers, a number of major promoters and sanctioning bodies that will order fights that the fans want to see. Which 90% of the time are the champions and the top 5 contenders.

Everybody does their little piece in this whole operation and that's how we will get the best results. This corrupt method of one man/organization/body trying to get it's hands into every aspect of the game is what is ruining boxing, and that's what Haymon it appears is trying to do.

Haymon is not going to solve anything and he is not what boxing needs.

[samouraļ]

War haymon. Down with rob arum and ****** dela Hoya

Are you kidding, or are you really this dumb?

[The Big Dunn]

I think it has something to do with the ethical aspect of what Haymon is doing. The big eye-opener for me is the apparent crossing the line of advisor and promoter. Haymon appears to be performing promoter's tasks under the guise of being an advisor. Also, Haymon's apparent attempt to get the lion's share of big name boxers under his banner is a matter of concern. In other types of business, this might be seen as attempt to form a monopoly, which would likely meet resistance from the SEC. Monopolies almost always result in paying more for less.

As a fan, I would be highly disappointed if Haymon's rise in power amounts to lackluster fights at premium prices. We'll have to wait and see how all of this plays out.

Haymon has definitely found a loophole between advising and promoting. His massing talent is no different than SCott Boras getting all the best baseball clients or the football agency that has the bulk of the quaterbacks-they have been able to sell their clients on the strategy that if we all work together we all benefit.

A monoploy would be if you purchased all of the companies in a given business. Boxers choose to sign with Haymon so its much different.

Your last paragraph sums up how I feel minus my other concerns. I agree and stated in my 1st post in the thread that Al deserves criticism for his involvement in this 8/9 card and if he continues that stuff then he will kill his intentions before they even start.

[DeadLikeMe]

So for years I see people crying about "Boxing needs the UFC model." But now it is a bad thing according to most of the same people who wanted the UFC model? This whole network/promoter/advisor ****sucking is getting out of hand. You're getting what you've asked for morons, but because it from someone associated with Mayweather it has to be bad, right?

I'm confused why the people who for years wanted a UFC model in boxing, suddenly think it is a bad thing.