"Alien" Hopkins vs "Krusher" Kovalev Post fight Discussion thread

[LacedUp]

Not including pavlik , calzaghe and wright , I got a count of 5-0 for Hopkins in their current divisions.
Didn't include Dawson loss, included the NC
By the way Hatton almost lost to collazo before he fought mayweather. Calzaghe and pavlik were unbeaten but unlike Hatton they dominated everybody prior to Hopkins

Nice debating with you , peace

Obviously not true.

[jas]

What about Canelo and Cotto?

both were ranked #1.

It's 5-0 I miscounted lmao

[jas]

Obviously not true.

In recent history prior to fight yes .

Calzaghe vs Reid was ages ago

[IronDanHamza]

Not including pavlik , calzaghe and wright , I got a count of 4-0 for Hopkins in their current divisions.

By the way Hatton almost lost to collazo before he fought mayweather. Calzaghe and pavlik were unbeaten but unlike Hatton they dominated everybody prior to Hopkins

Nice debating with you , peace

So you won't name them then?

Guess I'll have to.

Hopkins -Trinidad, Tarver, Pascal.

I believe that's it. 3.

Floyd has more at 130 and 135 alone

You just included those names it's right there.

Calzaghe dominated everyone he faced I'm guessing you didn't see the Robin Reid fight? Who's better Reid or Collazo?

Either way back to the point of discussion Floyd beat more #1 ranked guys than Hopkins and more Top 5 guys than Hopkins.

[LacedUp]

Me either. Like I said earlier in this thread, just take the fighters they've beaten and list them by quality. You're going to end up all Mayweather. Trinidad tops the list, and then you're going Castillo, Corrales, Mosley, Cotto, Marquez, Oscar, and Hatton before you list another Hopkins win. I guess Tarver could get in there, that's it.

Then you start listing their ranked contenders and champions and Floyd blows him out of the water. Wins people completely hate on like Judah and Baldomir and Guerrero, and wins people don't ever mention like Corley and Hernandez and Chavez and Augustus, are as good, if not better than the wins people love for Hopkins, like Cloud, Murat, Johnson, Shumenov, and all those blah names he defended against at middleweight.

Mayweather's resume is so much better than Hopkins in every way. I'm not even sure I'd put Tito down as #1 on a combined resume. He would be in the top 3, but going by quality, I'm not sure I'd put him down as #1 - but potentially.

Either way, after Trinidad - as you say it's all Mayweather. Tarver would be in there somewhere, but Mayweather fought such an amount of champions, ATGs and HOFamers that it really isn't even a contest in my book.

I think most people claim it to be, because of their personal dislike for Mayweather.

[LacedUp]

So you won't name them then?

Guess I'll have to.

Hopkins -Trinidad, Tarver, Pascal.

I believe that's it. 3.

Floyd has more at 130 and 135 alone

You just included those names it's right there.

Calzaghe dominated everyone he faced I'm guessing you didn't see the Robin Reid fight? Who's better Reid or Collazo?

Either way back to the point of discussion Floyd beat more #1 ranked guys than Hopkins and more Top 5 guys than Hopkins.

And more ranked fighters, more future hall of famers and more ATGs. More reigning champions, more future champions and more past champions.

[IronDanHamza]

And more ranked fighters, more future hall of famers and more ATGs. More reigning champions, more future champions and more past champions.

I think people actually assume Hopkins beat more #1 guys and Top 5 guys.

Floyd beat way more. Floyd has beaten more than alot of fighters even in history.

[DreamMerchant12]

I already have Hopkins well above Floyd on my ATG list.

Floyd's only real notable win against a quality fighter in his prime was against Jose luis Castillo, and he lost the first fight. I don't know how you can be an all time great with only 1 notable win.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Floyd has many more notable wins outside of the Castillo fights (yes he did win the 1st time).

[The Big Dunn]

I think people actually assume Hopkins beat more #1 guys and Top 5 guys.

Floyd beat way more. Floyd has beaten more than alot of fighters even in history.

Cmon IronDan you've been here long enough. When discussing opponents with everyone else its where they were ranked. with Floyd its personal opinion of that ranking.

[IMDAZED]

No. And I'm not that excited about Kovalev but I might even root for him. Anything to make Hops retire. Not that I don't respect him but I find the idea of a 49-year-old selecting certain opponents (and avoiding others) profoundly annoying.