Is there a SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Pacquiao USED STEROIDS?

[Evol]

can somebody tweet ariza to hurry up! LOL

[Strategic1]

PAC hasn't knocked anyone out because he's less fierce. As people grow older, it's only natural to lose a bit of testosterone and aggressiveness.

The fact that he's already made millions also plays a factor. It's really like Rocky. When you've achieved everything there is in the sport and made the money, it's hard to keep the motivation.

I think that's the case with PAC. But the Marquez knockout and his money trouble, has given him his last source of motivation.

The PED accusers keep saying...' oh Manny, is not destroying people anymore. He's off the juice'. Come on. 2008-2009 Manny was a different animal. He was only starting to make big time money. Now that he's made the money and a bit older, and now that he's a born again Christian,...he's just less ferocious in the ring.

Look at Manny's eyes when he competed from 2001-2010... and look at it now. He's just less hungry. But he'd still beat pretty much everyone out there.

[A-Wolf]

Hate doesn't need evidence.

[djtmal]

do we have to go thru this again?? the testing wits the ll still be RANDOMdidn't until the cut off date that they agreed on. so if they agree on 6 days out that means manny will be tested RANDOMLY up until the 6 days if theres any reasons to keep testing up until that day.

Don't waste your breath trying to explain this to this guy. Trust me he knows Pacquaio didnt
refuse anything. Its in newspaper and print that both sides walked away but these dudes are just hard headed. Its just pure hate because the little dude can fight and the ped accusations by Floyd haven't moved from nothing but speculation for 7 or 8 years now. Anyone with common sense can see that he didn't outright refuse anything except these ride or die floyd fans. Everybody has moved on from 2007 except these guys but if they want to stay on floyd island hey let em.

Since 2007 Pac has been interviewed thousands of times, and every time Its the same response. He'll do any kind of blood/urine tests floyd wants to do. Thats good enough. Anybody not satisfied with that imo is on some deep rooted hate.

[Mindrapist]

Don't waste your breath trying to explain this to this guy. Trust me he knows Pacquaio didnt
refuse anything. Its in newspaper and print that both sides walked away but these dudes are just hard headed. Its just pure hate because the little dude can fight and the ped accusations by Floyd haven't moved from nothing but speculation for 7 or 8 years now. Anyone with common sense can see that he didn't outright refuse anything except these ride or die floyd fans. Everybody has moved on from 2007 except these guys but if they want to stay on floyd island hey let em.

Since 2007 Pac has been interviewed thousands of times, and every time Its the same response. He'll do any kind of blood/urine tests floyd wants to do. Thats good enough. Anybody not satisfied with that imo is on some deep rooted hate.

He can say what he wants. That means little. (He doesn't call the shots in his camp anyway, Arum does.) What means a lot, however, is running from tests while coming up with irrational reasons for doing so.

Not to mention suing the guy you're claiming to want to do business with. He could've taken the tests, beat his a$$ and THEN sue him.

It's just all very flimsy and suspect.

[Resilient]

As I responded to your earlier post:

If this is the case, why is every pro sports league and almost every major corporation using blood and hair analysis instead of urine? Coke, weed, x,party drugs are easily detected in urine. EPO, HGH, etc-not so much.

Why would the commissions need to use VADA and USADA if the urine they do already is sufficient?

If blood testing is not as good as urine, why does Manny never balk at urine testing but always at blood testing?

Victor Conte has already confirmed that the best way to detect EPO and testosterone is through urine analysis.

And many corporations prefer the use of urine testing because it is a lot easier, less invasive and cheaper than blood testing.

And I've explained about Manny's fear of blood being drawn up which he has spoken about since 2005.

[The Big Dunn]

Victor Conte has already confirmed that the best way to detect EPO and testosterone is through urine analysis.

And many corporations prefer the use of urine testing because it is a lot easier, less invasive and cheaper than blood testing.

And I've explained about Manny's fear of blood being drawn up which he has spoken about since 2005.

You didn't answer the questions asked. Let's try again:

If urine testing is so good why is boxing, along with every other major pro sporting league and mma all going to blood testing? Why has the Olympics, cycling and other major amateur sports sought better testing methods than just urine?

Just so they can spend more money?

Or is it because it's more effective?

[djtmal]

He can say what he win fronnts. That means little. (He doesn't call the shots in his camp anyway, Arum does.) What means a lot, however, is running from tests while coming up with irrational reasons for doing so.

Not to mention suing the guy you're claiming to want to do business with. He could've taken the tests, beat his a$$ and THEN sue him.

It's just all very flimsy and suspect.

Lol. Coulda woulda shoulda. Floyd coulda dropped the whole OST debacle and went ahead with the fight. Or better still, just went ahead with the 3 blood test Manny was willing to spot him. All of Floyd's other demands were agreed upon. It works both ways man.

Again, you got one cat who fights who they put in front of him,
Vs one cat who fights who he puts in front of himself, only if you play by all his rules. Everybody ain't gotta bow down like that man thats life.

[luisivich]

Even if there were some concrete evidence, they would absolutely refuse to believe it. We would hear the same things we hear with the IRS, when his extended family were getting arrested for a crime ring, etc...political rivals are trying to make him look bad, they're jealous because of all his success, so on and so forth. Nothing is ever Pacman's fault.

i'll explain to you what you had just written. let's say you are a famous person and you allegedly commited a crime and the judge said you should be directly be sent to prison without being tried by the jury because the jury is biased and believed anything you say. it is what you actually implied.

[Resilient]

You didn't answer the questions asked. Let's try again:

If urine testing is so good why is boxing, along with every other major pro sporting league and mma all going to blood testing? Why has the Olympics, cycling and other major amateur sports sought better testing methods than just urine?

Just so they can spend more money?

Or is it because it's more effective?

Blood + urine testing is the most efficient form of testing, yes.

But if he was juicing it would have most definitely appeared in his urine and saliva samples.

But yes, Pacquiao was being a diva and should have given blood.

But you're being disingenuous in claiming he flat out ''refused testing'' because he did not, he was more than willing to give urine which is a highly reliable method of drug detection.