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Is there a SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Pacquiao USED STEROIDS?

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    simple answer....how does one know if plankiao never took the tests???

    he left it in the doubt of the fans minds so now we place our opoinion. dude on steroids plan and simple until he prove me otherwise

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      Originally posted by Strategic1 View Post
      PAC hasn't knocked anyone out because he's less fierce. As people grow older, it's only natural to lose a bit of testosterone and aggressiveness.

      The fact that he's already made millions also plays a factor. It's really like Rocky. When you've achieved everything there is in the sport and made the money, it's hard to keep the motivation.

      I think that's the case with PAC. But the Marquez knockout and his money trouble, has given him his last source of motivation.

      The PED accusers keep saying...' oh Manny, is not destroying people anymore. He's off the juice'. Come on. 2008-2009 Manny was a different animal. He was only starting to make big time money. Now that he's made the money and a bit older, and now that he's a born again Christian,...he's just less ferocious in the ring.

      Look at Manny's eyes when he competed from 2001-2010... and look at it now. He's just less hungry. But he'd still beat pretty much everyone out there.
      Pac is a politician first fighter 2nd now.

      Before he was in politics, he was an animal. Come after 2016 we aint gonna see him fight anymore. We will see him as President of the Philippines (I'm not joking by the way), its pathetic IMO (give me a break I love manny as a fighter but he has zero qualifications as a leader).

      People vote who they wanna vote thou.

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        Originally posted by Booty Dew View Post

        But if he was juicing it would have most definitely appeared in his urine and saliva samples.


        This right here. Dude has been fighting before he was legal drinking age.

        Now if the answer to this question is negative, then the case should be closed

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          Originally posted by Booty Dew View Post
          Blood + urine testing is the most efficient form of testing, yes.

          But if he was juicing it would have most definitely appeared in his urine and saliva samples.

          But yes, Pacquiao was being a diva and should have given blood.

          But you're being disingenuous in claiming he flat out ''refused testing'' because he did not, he was more than willing to give urine which is a highly reliable method of drug detection.
          You still haven't answered the questions asked.

          Giving urine isn't good enough. I think we have enough examples to show it isnt.

          There is a reason manny was always willing to give urine and not blood. Superstition and needle fear are not believable reasons to anyone who doesn't love manny.

          You are one of the posters accusing jmm. He has passed all urine tests too.

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            Originally posted by The Tase View Post
            who do you guys think paulie's bscene username is?

            you know he has one.
            I know Clottey has one for sure.

            I think he's the poster that started the rumor that Clottey threw the Pacquiao fight.

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              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              You still haven't answeredisn'tthe questions asked.

              Giving urine isn't good enough. I think we have enough examples to show it.

              There is a reason manny was always willing to give urine and not blood. Superstition and needle fear are not believable reasons to anyone who doesn't love manny.

              You are one of the posters accusing jmm. He has passed all urine tests too.
              Dude, he gave you a straight answer. You asked him for the criteria because obviously he knows more than you. Now giving urine and saliva isn't good enough? Geez

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                Originally posted by djtmal View Post
                Dude, he gave you a straight answer. You asked him for the criteria because obviously he knows more than you. Now giving urine and saliva isn't good enough? Geez
                He didn't answer why every major pro sporting league and the Olympics have gone to blood testing. Obviously they don't think it's enough?

                Why did conte start his company or Margaret Goodman start vada if urine and saliva was enough?

                Why did you, booty and others keep saying floyd needs to use Vada if urine and saliva is enough?
                Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-03-2014, 05:33 PM.

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                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  You still haven't answered the questions asked.

                  Giving urine isn't good enough. I think we have enough examples to show it isnt.

                  There is a reason manny was always willing to give urine and not blood. Superstition and needle fear are not believable reasons to anyone who doesn't love manny.

                  You are one of the posters accusing jmm. He has passed all urine tests too.
                  arum is the one who put forward manny's fear of needles. chavit singson(one of manny's hangers on) when ask why manny is not doing random blood testing simply answered "floyd is an american" if nsac could lost manny's blood test for hepatitis and such taken 2 months prior to a morales fight, and have to take it a day before the fight. what could be expected of usada for a RANDOM testing without cut off dates.

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                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    He didn't answer why every major pro sporting league and the Olympics have gone to blood testing. Obviously they don't think it's enough?

                    Why did conte start his company or Margaret Goodman start vada if urine and saliva was enough?

                    Why did you, booty and others keep saying floyd needs to use Vada if urine and saliva is enough?
                    He answered your question bro, maybe not in the way that it would fit your agenda.

                    Plus, imo, boxing is boxing, in 2007 nobody had to take a mandatory blood test, so why should Pacquiao be so inclined

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                      Originally posted by The B. Dunn View Post

                      There is a reason manny was always willing to give urine and not blood. Superstition and needle fear are not believable reasons to anyone who doesn't love manny..
                      Ok this right here. Now Pacquiao has been on record before the whole Floyd thing detesting drawing blood so close to the Morales fight, and we know drawing blood and getting tatted is two different things entirely. Now that is reasonable enough
                      Explanation. You say the floyd pundits don't buy that, but that to me is a personal problem.

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