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Is there a SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Pacquiao USED STEROIDS?
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Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View PostThere isn't even a point. He is just going to come back and post the same stuff in like three pages no matter what the replies are. Blaming Floyd for Manny running from drug testing is crucial to pacfans.
Their entire shtick is predicated on OSDT being an unreasonable request. The second their position changes from that, the entire house of cards comes tumbling down. Think of the mental ramifications of it. This national hero, an inspiration to millions. It means he probably cheated his way to the top. They are so unwavering in their stances because they have no other choice.
I only think it was silly to deny that Pac was roided, of course he was.
It's not like Floyd never used either.
It was just an exceuse really for Floyd to get out of the fight because he didn't like his chances, simple as that.
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it's hard for me to understand why they hadn't met at the the middle of the cut off date. both camps could easily agreed on a 2 weeks cut- off date. i could only think of one reason, both dont want the fight at that particular time. the fans are pressuring them and they need an alibi. they use the cut off date to walk away from the fight. i dont think pacquiao is on some peds. both camps are not sure if they'd win at that time. but pacquiao 2010 and up is confident that he could beat up floyd. floyd is still unsure of himself though- so he has various alibis not about blood testing.
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Originally posted by The Tase View Postjust checking in to see if anybody posted evidence.
i guess not.
That's like rewarding someone for not cheating on their wife when they've never been married.
Since manny refused advanced testing for the floyd fight, the only thing we can evaluate is that decision.
Many people feel that is not a decision a man who was clean would make and as such are su****ious.
Manny not taking those test prevents anyone from establishing guilt or innocence.
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Originally posted by Rafael Trujillo View PostHave you ever lived in poverty in a 3rd world country before? Pac was poor when he was younger--not US poor (many people in the US "******s" are still spoiled as **** IMO), we're talking 3rd world country poor. Once he started being successful in boxing and finally earning that money, his nutrition (and basically other facets of his quality of living) also improved. Think about it.
About refusing the test, I agree with you on that. To put an end to Mayweather's accusations, Pac should have just gone ahead, took the tests, and fought Floyd to disprove him. Basically backfired on Pac and made him look like a cheat. However, it has been documented that Pac doesn't like his blood being drawn close to his fights since he feels it weakens him. He has stated this before WAY before the Mayweather negotiations (vs Erik Morales). Basically, he felt he lost to Erik due to blood being taken from him before their fight.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostPlenty of evidence has been posted. all you do is discount it. Manny has never tested positive because he has never taken advanced testing other than the Rios fight.
That's like rewarding someone for not cheating on their wife when they've never been married.
Since manny refused advanced testing for the floyd fight, the only thing we can evaluate is that decision.
Many people feel that is not a decision a man who was clean would make and as such are su****ious.
Manny not taking those test prevents anyone from establishing guilt or innocence.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostPlenty of evidence has been posted. all you do is discount it. Manny has never tested positive because he has never taken advanced testing other than the Rios fight.
That's like rewarding someone for not cheating on their wife when they've never been married.
Since manny refused advanced testing for the floyd fight, the only thing we can evaluate is that decision.
Many people feel that is not a decision a man who was clean would make and as such are su****ious.
Manny not taking those test prevents anyone from establishing guilt or innocence.
not agreeing to a contract and walking away from the negotiating table is not evidence of ped use.
try again with your awful reaches.
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