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    #61
    Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
    I was telling Bringer last week that I'm still not sure why you bother sometimes, Dan. I get that there have to be the people who oppose the ridiculousness on NSB, but sometimes you can see who is saying what or who started a thread and know it just isn't worth it.

    The comparison between Roy/Tarver and Floyd/Maidana is really close.

    Both Roy and Floyd were near the end and receiving a lot of "best ever" talk.

    Both struggled with solid opponents they would have beaten much easier at their best, and both had the same scores. No joke, the Jones/Tarver 1 scores were 117-11, 116-112, and 114-114. A lot of people called robbery, too.

    People assumed Roy would be fine and whoop Tarver in the rematch, and will assume the same if Floyd and Maidana rematch. Like Roy with Montell Griffin, people will assume the same for Floyd because of the Castillo fights.

    I'm running with this, screw it. Maidana will beat Floyd in the rematch. If Floyd comes out and looks great in the 1st round of the rematch, I'll be completely confident.
    Wow Slightly scary.

    Can't believe they had the same scores.

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      #62
      Originally posted by ßringer View Post
      'Tards gonna 'tard, though.

      As for the bolded - Let's be real : Mayweather fans started that dumb **** when Marquez knocked Pacquiao out. Somehow, that was twisted into a victory for them.

      Mental illness is a b*tch.
      they really did that, is amazing haha

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        #63
        Originally posted by check hook View Post
        I'm watching now, with Showtime commentary (i had ****ty main event commentary here in Oz) and Paulie in round 6 is saying exactly what i thought and posted just an hour ago and exactly what i thought and many others said about Broner. They (Broner and Floyd) stood infront of Maidana and did not throw. They weren't "first" to the punch. Again i say Floyd would have done better in this particular fight if Roger came up with the gameplan for Maidana's style. He would have told Floyd to back him up and "be first."

        Also i agree with Floyd on the proviso he hasn't actually gotten too old as a fighter in the fight just gone. Counter punchers generally do better in rematches.
        I agree with this right here..Chino has zero chance if he thinks in a rematch he will just go out there and do the same damn thing. Floyd now knows what storm is coming. This will be a clear pot shot contest with a few maidana slap boxing on the ropes moments. No rematch man...

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          #64
          Has Joe Cortez been called out of retirement yet?

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            #65
            Originally posted by check hook View Post
            somewhere btw 6-8 i think. Paulie even mentions how close it was. You'd never think a fighter would ever get close to landing a leaping left on Floyd.
            Wow. I'll look for that. It's always so interesting to see how these fighters age. I think Floyd realized years ago that he wasn't the same fighter and started making adjustments. But nothing you can do when the loss of reaction time means you're eating flush shots that would've never touched you in your prime.

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              #66
              Originally posted by check hook View Post
              His left hook has been gone for ages. Even clearer in the Guerrero fight when he wasn't following up the str8 right with good left hooks. Floyd's left hook has been a lazy arm punch where the elbow and arm are too low, coming in at 45-60 degrees instead of 80-90. If you look at Floyd's early career and up to and including ODLH and to lesser degree Hatton, his left hook is like a laser. It was his best punch for most of his career, now it's his right hand. Increasingly Floyd is finding it harder to pull the trigger and is becoming more one handed with his power shots.
              So, so true. His left hook was ridiculous. He barely throws it now. Last time I saw him fire a real good one was against Mosley.

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                #67
                Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                Yeah man, his reflexes have slowed a lot. There were times where he got nailed with straight rights just standing straight up -- never reacted. Bad, bad signs. Definitely couldn't pull the trigger at times but that's also something I've noticed for a while now. It was even more apparent on Saturday. I suspected this would happen, particularly coming off the high of the Canelo win. It's over, folks -- no way he goes through that contract undefeated. And yeah, Porter would beat him. I thought he could before Saturday night. I'm convinced now.
                I think Khan would give him a whole load of problems aswell.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  Wow. I'll look for that. It's always so interesting to see how these fighters age. I think Floyd realized years ago that he wasn't the same fighter and started making adjustments. But nothing you can do when the loss of reaction time means you're eating flush shots that would've never touched you in your prime.
                  There is an interview where a while ago, as long as 24 months probably where he himself mentions he has noticed a decrease in reflexes. Floyd Sr has also said it. Rewatching some of the early rds again now. Floyd does more than fine when he consitently jabs up and down and get's off first. Got him winning rd 2. So that's rd 2, 7, 9,10,11 and 12 reasonably clear even when close. That's 6 right there. Maidana didn't win but he made Floyd very uncomfortable. The margin or whether you think it's a draw depends on the scoring of rds 8,3 and 4 imo.

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                    #69
                    rather see pac vs maydanna

                    if pac is smart enough he fights maidanna and beat the **** out of him. Then all the pressure falls on Floyd. What a move to prove who the **** is scare to make it happen. Which I know is the whole gayfeather family. nitramzaid@hotmail.com

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by check hook View Post
                      His left hook has been gone for ages. Even clearer in the Guerrero fight when he wasn't following up the str8 right with good left hooks. Floyd's left hook has been a lazy arm punch where the elbow and arm are too low, coming in at 45-60 degrees instead of 80-90. If you look at Floyd's early career and up to and including ODLH and to lesser degree Hatton, his left hook is like a laser. It was his best punch for most of his career, now it's his right hand. Increasingly Floyd is finding it harder to pull the trigger and is becoming more one handed with his power shots.
                      Yeah that's very true. He's not sharp at all with it for the most part.

                      Sad sight. Happens to everyone.

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