Comments Thread For: Mayweather Warns: Rematch Would Be Totally Different!

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I think it will be more comfortable in the rematch but he's still going to give Floyd problems.

Floyd was the worst I've ever seen him on saturday. So much slower. Looked like he couldn't pull the trigger at times. Leaping left hook was no where to be seen and when tried was way off. Getting tagged by slow jabs at times, standing right infront of him after landing a lead right instead of slipping out on the angles.

Very alarming signs. Maidana JUST missed him quite a few times.

I've been saying it since 2012, you've been saying it even longer, but, it's very much real and apparent now and it's only down hill from here.

I would give Shawn Porter a very good shot at beating Floyd if that fight get's made between now and next September.

His left hook has been gone for ages. Even clearer in the Guerrero fight when he wasn't following up the str8 right with good left hooks. Floyd's left hook has been a lazy arm punch where the elbow and arm are too low, coming in at 45-60 degrees instead of 80-90. If you look at Floyd's early career and up to and including ODLH and to lesser degree Hatton, his left hook is like a laser. It was his best punch for most of his career, now it's his right hand. Increasingly Floyd is finding it harder to pull the trigger and is becoming more one handed with his power shots.

[sugarsmosley]

I was telling Bringer last week that I'm still not sure why you bother sometimes, Dan. I get that there have to be the people who oppose the ridiculousness on NSB, but sometimes you can see who is saying what or who started a thread and know it just isn't worth it.

The comparison between Roy/Tarver and Floyd/Maidana is really close.

Both Roy and Floyd were near the end and receiving a lot of "best ever" talk.

Both struggled with solid opponents they would have beaten much easier at their best, and both had the same scores. No joke, the Jones/Tarver 1 scores were 117-11, 116-112, and 114-114. A lot of people called robbery, too.

People assumed Roy would be fine and whoop Tarver in the rematch, and will assume the same if Floyd and Maidana rematch. Like Roy with Montell Griffin, people will assume the same for Floyd because of the Castillo fights.

I'm running with this, screw it. Maidana will beat Floyd in the rematch. If Floyd comes out and looks great in the 1st round of the rematch, I'll be completely confident.

maidana gonna have to have even better conditioning, and throw even more punches

[bojangles1987]

I think it will be more comfortable in the rematch but he's still going to give Floyd problems.

Floyd was the worst I've ever seen him on saturday. So much slower. Looked like he couldn't pull the trigger at times. Leaping left hook was no where to be seen and when tried was way off. Getting tagged by slow jabs at times, standing right infront of him after landing a lead right instead of slipping out on the angles.

Very alarming signs. Maidana JUST missed him quite a few times.

I've been saying it since 2012, you've been saying it even longer, but, it's very much real and apparent now and it's only down hill from here.

I would give Shawn Porter a very good shot at beating Floyd if that fight get's made between now and next September.

I'm always hesitant to make any statement in the immediate aftermath of a fight, but I was thinking about Porter, too. Not that he's definitely as good as Maidana, but he's just as rough and much more explosive.

[djinferno]

I think it will be more comfortable in the rematch but he's still going to give Floyd problems.

Floyd was the worst I've ever seen him on saturday. So much slower. Looked like he couldn't pull the trigger at times. Leaping left hook was no where to be seen and when tried was way off. Getting tagged by slow jabs at times, standing right infront of him after landing a lead right instead of slipping out on the angles.

Very alarming signs. Maidana JUST missed him quite a few times.

I've been saying it since 2012, you've been saying it even longer, but, it's very much real and apparent now and it's only down hill from here.

I would give Shawn Porter a very good shot at beating Floyd if that fight get's made between now and next September.

I saw what you are saying but i think its only because Chino is awkward, Floyd took more time to be comfortable and that cut over his eye made him lose his composure for a minute...


That being said, i feel like Floyd handled it as expected...

[IronDanHamza]

yeah man, shawn porter now imagine if he gets better. if he beats brook and another top contender i would absolutely want to see floyd-porter

porter is faster then maidana, + possibly better inside game AND stronger? ur right,, porter is a big threat to an aging floyd at this point.

And clinching isn't going to work with Porter.

Fast, athletic, explosive, big, strong, rough, aggressive, punches hard.

Big problems for the Floyd we see today.

[IMDAZED]

Chino missed a leaping left by a whisker in one of the rounds because Floyd backed away in a straight line and if he get's Floyd on the head at the right angle he can def poleaxe him. It's counter intuitive, but Floyd actually needs to be more aggressive in a rematch to keep Maidana backing up.

Couple more thing i'm noticing late in the fight. Floyd's dirty fighting game improved in the second half. He started twisting Maidana's arm inside and returned that favour in the 12th. Maidana jiggles it showing he felt it. Also Floyd went for the glove over the mouth a few times too.

Just finished watching, i though 7,9,10,11 and 12 were pretty clear for Floyd. His defense on the ropes got better and he attacked more. Felt Chino slowed a little too. Rds 8 and if i remember 2, 4 and 3 were close ones. I though Mayweather did enough to edge a couple of them. Close fight, but i feel the way Floyd looks and even sounds makes it hard for judges to score close rounds against him. When he lands you can always see it clearly and hear it. When he is being landed on it's less obvious. Very difficult fighter to decision.

I missed that left -- when was that? Fight was close, no doubt about it. Definitely warrants a rematch.

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I missed that left -- when was that? Fight was close, no doubt about it. Definitely warrants a rematch.

somewhere btw 6-8 i think. Paulie even mentions how close it was. You'd never think a fighter would ever get close to landing a leaping left on Floyd.

[pinpointsman]

Mayweather landed 50 plus percent of his punches either he got old or he did this on purpose for a rematch.

I thought Mosely, Cotto and Alvarez would have beat Mayweather because of the way Floyd has looked in the past 5 years.

I also thought Ortiz and Guerrero had chances.

[IMDAZED]

I think it will be more comfortable in the rematch but he's still going to give Floyd problems.

Floyd was the worst I've ever seen him on saturday. So much slower. Looked like he couldn't pull the trigger at times. Leaping left hook was no where to be seen and when tried was way off. Getting tagged by slow jabs at times, standing right infront of him after landing a lead right instead of slipping out on the angles.

Very alarming signs. Maidana JUST missed him quite a few times.

I've been saying it since 2012, you've been saying it even longer, but, it's very much real and apparent now and it's only down hill from here.

I would give Shawn Porter a very good shot at beating Floyd if that fight get's made between now and next September.

Yeah man, his reflexes have slowed a lot. There were times where he got nailed with straight rights just standing straight up -- never reacted. Bad, bad signs. Definitely couldn't pull the trigger at times but that's also something I've noticed for a while now. It was even more apparent on Saturday. I suspected this would happen, particularly coming off the high of the Canelo win. It's over, folks -- no way he goes through that contract undefeated. And yeah, Porter would beat him. I thought he could before Saturday night. I'm convinced now.

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wow really,, what makes u think that. 1 poster brought it up, maybe floyd will actually be more agressive. a risk would be there, cause of course an exchange with maidana could be deadly but it seems like floyd cant miss him. esp to the body

Because that's boxing, my friend. I've seen this movie many times. Four months after an extremely tough fight at the age of 37? Not to hard to see why that's going to be a big, big issue. And yeah, Floyd will have to exchange with Maidana because he doesn't have the legs or reflexes to hit and move anymore. That's just the way it goes when fighters get older.