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Mike Tyson VS Bruce Lee. No rules street fight. Who wins and how?

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    Originally posted by TheHolyCross View Post
    lean, small, fast guys are awful to fight, their punches are sharp as *** with their tiny ass fists
    Yeah I did not realize being "big" became the be all end all of street fighting. Those lean guys with their sharp knuckles can literally rip a little piece of skin off your face or give you nasty gashes with their wolverine knuckles. Cuts happen and blood gets in your eye and your f-cked.

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      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
      Who knows how well Lee would've done? His physical attributes seem to indicate he might've done well, but what if he had no chin? One thing I'm fairly confident in saying is that it's unlikely Bruce would've been on the Pacquiao level. Once we start making these hypothetical comparisons to the very best, I get very skeptical.
      This is a no rules street fight not a boxing match.

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        Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
        Who knows how well Lee would've done? His physical attributes seem to indicate he might've done well, but what if he had no chin? One thing I'm fairly confident in saying is that it's unlikely Bruce would've been on the Pacquiao level. Once we start making these hypothetical comparisons to the very best, I get very skeptical.
        Physical attributes don't really indicate anything.

        "What if he had no chin" is one of many questions that need asking.

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          Tyson would not even land a punch, Lee would beat him in 2 minutes.

          Most street fights last less than that.

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            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
            Well a "fighter" to me is a person who fights professionally. I think it's unfair to call someone a "fighter" when there are world class professional who fight other world class professionals as a living.

            That's what I consider a fighter. I don't consider "street fighting" to be fighting I don't even consider sparring to be fighting. If you're an Amateur fighter you're an amateur fighter if you're a professional fighter you are a professional fighter.

            What ample evidence are we talking about? His known friends or colleagues saying that "Oh man Bruce was real good!"

            Which professional fighters who fought professionally say Bruce Lee could fight? The only one I see is Chuck Norris and he was on a film with him. If there's more it's seldom. And since when is that evidence a guy can fight anyway? "Because he said so" that's not evidence to me.

            These "Amateur fights" in Hong Kong are extremely suspect. No actual record of it other than word of mouth by again someone close to him and the guy he fought "Gary Elms" and alleged "3 year Boxing Champion" that no one has heard of before or since.

            Either way the bottom line is comparing Bruce Lee to professional fighters and who would win is ludicrous. The idea of a guy who never had any professional fights being compared to greats that did is ridiculous to begin with.
            That's a disrespectful thing to say, people train in arts that would be considered illegal in the MMA world. Fighting goes far and beyond what we see in combat sports today, one wouldn't have to fight professionally.

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              Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
              That's a disrespectful thing to say, people train in arts that would be considered illegal in the MMA world. Fighting goes far and beyond what we see in combat sports today, one wouldn't have to fight professionally.
              I don't consider people who "train" to be fighters.

              I consider people who fight to be fighters.

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                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                I don't consider people who "train" to be fighters.

                I consider people who fight to be fighters.
                Iron that one flew over you man.

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                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  Well a "fighter" to me is a person who fights professionally. I think it's unfair to call someone a "fighter" when there are world class professional who fight other world class professionals as a living.

                  That's what I consider a fighter. I don't consider "street fighting" to be fighting I don't even consider sparring to be fighting. If you're an Amateur fighter you're an amateur fighter if you're a professional fighter you are a professional fighter.

                  What ample evidence are we talking about? His known friends or colleagues saying that "Oh man Bruce was real good!"

                  Which professional fighters who fought professionally say Bruce Lee could fight? The only one I see is Chuck Norris and he was on a film with him. If there's more it's seldom. And since when is that evidence a guy can fight anyway? "Because he said so" that's not evidence to me.

                  These "Amateur fights" in Hong Kong are extremely suspect. No actual record of it other than word of mouth by again someone close to him and the guy he fought "Gary Elms" and alleged "3 year Boxing Champion" that no one has heard of before or since.

                  Either way the bottom line is comparing Bruce Lee to professional fighters and who would win is ludicrous. The idea of a guy who never had any professional fights being compared to greats that did is ridiculous to begin with.
                  Going by your stated definition, we can agree Bruce was never a fighter. As for his abilities, you clearly don't believe anything you've ever read or heard about them. That's fine, too. I, myself, view some of these stories with a degree of doubt. But, again, I say that just because we can't find irrefutable evidence doesn't mean there isn't truth behind the tales. Men have been sent to prison for a very long time, or even executed, because trained professionals using the latest in forensics and investigatory techniques "proved" them guilty.

                  The spirit of the question relies on a belief that Bruce Lee was capable of doing the things that he was purported to do. If you believe it's all hogwash, then obviously it's a preposterous question. If you believe there is some truth to the myth, then it becomes a question of whether you think Bruce was skilled, accurate and fast enough to deliver a debilitating blow to a much bigger, more powerful opponent. I happen to believe there is some truth to the legend; but, based on what I've seen, read and heard, I don't think it would've been enough.

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                    I wonder how many kill moves Lee knew.

                    No rules, Tyson RIP

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                      It wouldn't need to be a blow, Lee could break his arms, legs choke him to death.

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