Official Mayweather vs Maidana Master Discussion & Postfight Analysis Thread

[The Problem Child]

Mayweather will be hurt, May 3rd.

[punchr]

Mayweather loves to get into the boxing exchange game with opponents. You can't outbox a better boxer.
Foot speed and a ruff FORWARD moving style and hard hitting is the only thing that can throw Mayweather off. Maidana has decent speed in conjunction with an awkward style, to be able to hit Mayweather, but Mayweather is one of the most experienced chess players out there. He'll find a way to nullify Maidana's attributes, whereas Maidana doesn't quite have the boxing IQ of Mayweather. Should be interesting for the first few rounds. Maidana should go balls out from the first bell and not worry about gassing out. Its his only chance in my opinion. He might be able to catch him.

That's precisely what I've been telling my brother. Exactly what I bolded in your post.

Maidana, when he's fresh, is very dangerous.

I'm glad Maidana has the mentality that Broner is stronger than Mayweather, because it means there won't be any feeling-out process from Marcos. He's gonna do an all-out blitzkrieg. Let's see what Mayweather can do to tame the wild animal.

[joseph5620]

I am not counting on Mayweather fighting like either one. Im counting on him changing it up alot, as I have clearly outlined in previous posts. Khan's go to method is getting on his bike. Alexander's go to method is the clinch. Floyd is more versatile than that but.. its during transition between his different forms of defense where he is most vulnerable, to the right foe.



Of course he has a puncher's chance. He aint winning no points fight. Some punchers have a better chance than others, which is being glossed over. I wouldnt be out here in the trenches of ineptitude if I hadnt seen something in Maidana that makes me believe he will be Floyd's toughest fight in years. I have never campaigned like this before, and I probably wont again for the rest of Floyd's career. Its something about Maidana, specifically, that has captured my attention. Ive tried to articulate WHY, but either I am not fleshing my concepts out enough or some posters here are being intentionally obtuse.

as to age. My only comment on that is some people are wise beyond their years, and some remain childlike in the mind until the day that they die.



Maidana is a superior fighter to Paulie. Has more tools. Paulie may see all the angles but he doesnt have the cards to win a high stakes hand. As I have said, Floyd is a master manipulator in the ring.. he deflates, discourages, demoralizes opponents. He lulls them into a cat and mouse game of his own making. The absolute prerequisite for challenging his mental dominance is to be very mentally dominant yourself. Dont abide or settle, challenge his entire world. I dont see anyone on the current landscape that has the elite intangibles of a Marcos Maidana.

Furthermore, you might feel smart picking Floyd every time to whitewash opponents, but is that even based on cognitive analysis or have you just slipped into the herd mentality? Seems Floyd's past opponents arent the only ones that have been lulled.

What does that have to do with Malignaggi's boxing opinions? And the only thing Maidana has over Malignaggi is power. You're being ridiculous now.

[LoadedWraps]

Maidana does several things better than Paulie. Paulie is a good combination puncher, he can box with almost anyone, very slick, and fundamentally sound, but Maidana has an even more extensive repertoire of punches, and all of them land with authority. Paulies jab is better, faster, crisper, comes back to the guard faster, it allows him to move in and out quickly, stay in range for a double or triple jab or as a setup punch, or he can pivot away swiftly and maintain control of the distance, wheras Maidanas jab is slower and drags a bit on the return, although it still hits with power. Maidana however, throws every other punch better. What Paulie beats him out in speed, Maidana overcomes with devastating power, well placed combinations, and his ability to close the distance at a surprising speed.

Paulie has a higher ring IQ, but Maidana has an underrated ring IQ to say the least.

They both can throw a high volume of punches and both have to for different reasons: Paulie needs the points to make up for feather fists, and Maidana needs the volume to make up for accuracy.

Paulie is a better pure boxer but not by much at all, in fact I could see Maidana outboxing him right now, Maidana has painfully underrated body work, ranging from wide hooks to short sneaky shots to the liver, a quick shoeshine that can move upstairs, and now he can double the jab and sneak a right behind it or sweep a right behind it.

The edge that Maidana has isn't his defense, (which is underrated as shiz, dude moves his head like Locche in his prime) or his Tyson-esque power, its his unorthodox hooks and hook-uppercut hybrids he can throw as single shots or incorporate them into deadly combinations of pain, trials, and tribulations.

Maidana will come to do war with his fire breathing fists on May 5th, we will see a perfect Floyd - at his defensively best, win a decision, or we will witness something we have never seen before, Maidana will die swinging before he loses, like a horse.


~LoadedWraps

[Syf]

What does that have to do with Malignaggi's boxing opinions? And the only thing Maidana has over Malignaggi is power. You're being ridiculous now.

I would say to a guy like Paulie his imagination is somewhat limited by what he can actually do himself. Standout announcer, and a good fighter, but it's not just power Maidana has over Paulie. It's his style that he has crafted around his power. His mindset. Paulie might just have more ko's and have developed more power if he had the mindset to do so. But he doesn't throw with conviction, so..

Plus, You can't just say someone has power and leave it at that.. Randal Bailey has power too ... Power he sits around too long waiting to use!

[joseph5620]

Maidana does several things better than Paulie. Paulie is a good combination puncher, he can box with almost anyone, very slick, and fundamentally sound, but Maidana has an even more extensive repertoire of punches, and all of them land with authority. Paulies jab is better, faster, crisper, comes back to the guard faster, it allows him to move in and out quickly, stay in range for a double or triple jab or as a setup punch, or he can pivot away swiftly and maintain control of the distance, wheras Maidanas jab is slower and drags a bit on the return, although it still hits with power. Maidana however, throws every other punch better. What Paulie beats him out in speed, Maidana overcomes with devastating power, well placed combinations, and his ability to close the distance at a surprising speed.

Paulie has a higher ring IQ, but Maidana has an underrated ring IQ to say the least.

They both can throw a high volume of punches and both have to for different reasons: Paulie needs the points to make up for feather fists, and Maidana needs the volume to make up for accuracy.

Paulie is a better pure boxer but not by much at all, in fact I could see Maidana outboxing him right now, Maidana has painfully underrated body work, ranging from wide hooks to short sneaky shots to the liver, a quick shoeshine that can move upstairs, and now he can double the jab and sneak a right behind it or sweep a right behind it.

The edge that Maidana has isn't his defense, (which is underrated as shiz, dude moves his head like Locche in his prime) or his Tyson-esque power, its his unorthodox hooks and hook-uppercut hybrids he can throw as single shots or incorporate them into deadly combinations of pain, trials, and tribulations.

Maidana will come to do war with his fire breathing fists on May 5th, we will see a perfect Floyd - at his defensively best, win a decision, or we will witness something we have never seen before, Maidana will die swinging before he loses, like a horse.


~LoadedWraps

You couldn't even possibly believe that.

[The Problem Child]

Maidana does several things better than Paulie. Paulie is a good combination puncher, he can box with almost anyone, very slick, and fundamentally sound, but Maidana has an even more extensive repertoire of punches, and all of them land with authority. Paulies jab is better, faster, crisper, comes back to the guard faster, it allows him to move in and out quickly, stay in range for a double or triple jab or as a setup punch, or he can pivot away swiftly and maintain control of the distance, wheras Maidanas jab is slower and drags a bit on the return, although it still hits with power. Maidana however, throws every other punch better. What Paulie beats him out in speed, Maidana overcomes with devastating power, well placed combinations, and his ability to close the distance at a surprising speed.

Paulie has a higher ring IQ, but Maidana has an underrated ring IQ to say the least.

They both can throw a high volume of punches and both have to for different reasons: Paulie needs the points to make up for feather fists, and Maidana needs the volume to make up for accuracy.

Paulie is a better pure boxer but not by much at all, in fact I could see Maidana outboxing him right now, Maidana has painfully underrated body work, ranging from wide hooks to short sneaky shots to the liver, a quick shoeshine that can move upstairs, and now he can double the jab and sneak a right behind it or sweep a right behind it.

The edge that Maidana has isn't his defense, (which is underrated as shiz, dude moves his head like Locche in his prime) or his Tyson-esque power, its his unorthodox hooks and hook-uppercut hybrids he can throw as single shots or incorporate them into deadly combinations of pain, trials, and tribulations.

Maidana will come to do war with his fire breathing fists on May 5th, we will see a perfect Floyd - at his defensively best, win a decision, or we will witness something we have never seen before, Maidana will die swinging before he loses, like a horse.


~LoadedWraps

LoadedPosts. Too much truth for these mere TMT mortals.

May 3rd something scary will occur...
A Mayweather victory? Don't be absurd
A brutal beating, that is the word
Maidanas roar will be heard all over the world

[iSniper]

LoadedPosts. Too much truth for these mere TMT mortals.

May 3rd something scary will occur...
A Mayweather victory? Don't be absurd
A brutal beating, that is the word
Maidanas roar will be heard all over the world

I smell an UPSET here!

[MrTambourineMan]

Floyd by TKO.

[JDD1]

I think floyd wins by late stoppage.