I've Decided, Wilder is the real deal!

[New England]

Didn't he need money for his daughter or something like that? It wasn't because he particularly liked boxing - and he had a late start to the sport - it was more a case of him needing money. At least that's how I understood his story.

I fully appreciate that there's a lot of heavyweights running around in the rugby leagues, unions, NBA, NFL etc. Of course there are. But that doesn't mean you can change from having played basketball all of your life to turn into a heavyweight champion.

It's always the same story with these athletes. They come from another sport, knock a few bums out and end up getting KOd badly when they meet a true boxer - not just one who converted out of convenience.

I think that will happen to Wilder as well. Whether or not he vanishes into oblivion like the obvious comparison Michael Grant, remains to be seen.

But I like him. He seems like a cool guy and he loves it in the UK.

kenny norton got a late start in boxing. he was a scholarship football player, and one of the best track athletes of all time in high school.

he broke the jaw of muhammad ali.

talent is talent, man. american big men are the most talented big athletes on the planet. nobody really comes close. if you got these guys in boxing gyms in their teens they'd be f#cking scary, and you guys would really have something to get scared about


no other country / sport can make the argument made about the HW division being robbed of their talents. the HW championship has historically been held by an american. it's only in the advent of the popularity of football and basketball that american talent has exited the division. it's no coincidence that american HW suck now, and that the world HW suck accordingly.

does that mean that talented american big men are preordained HW champions? no. you'd have to beat wladimir klitschko, and that wouldn't be easy for anybody.

i am saying that these guys are huge and talented to the point that you wouldn't even think they were real. i am saying wilder is not unique. there are thousands of wilders, and they're playing collegiate and professional team sports.


and ye, wilder had a family very young, and skipped out on being a basketball prospect to start boxing. i'm guessing that some cash changed hands while he was an amateur, because the guy had obvious talent and there's such a huge void for american HW. the money is easy to make.

[Tom Cruise]

One of Wilder's best attributes is his 'killer instinct.' The guy genuinely likes to knock dudes out so much so, that he reminds me of a young George Foreman. Young George Foreman was a bad a$$ black guy who fought with a 'chip on his shoulder' and liked puttin' a hurtin' on his opponents. That's Wilder's mentality, as evidenced by his 100% KO ratio and it sets him apart from many of contemporaries

I feel that same mentality has stunted his growth though. But it is fun to watch, Heavyweights should be knocking people out!

[BostonGuy]

I feel that same mentality has stunted his growth though. But it is fun to watch, Heavyweights should be knocking people out!

I don't know - I like the fact that he's always looking for the big KO and he seems to be a pretty good finisher after he's got an opponent hurt.

It's also about excitement. Wilder brings a lot of excitement with his KO mentality. It's easy to generate a fan base when you fighting frequently and knocking out opponent after opponent.

[UTEP]

Lets see what he can do against Malik

[daggum]

wilder is the most dominant heavyweight in history. how can he not be the real deal?

[Jloro]

What has that picture got to do with anything?

Don't try to justify him fighting bums 30 fights into his professional career. Just don't.

Canelo at least shows some skill. Wilder is so awkward-looking when he fights. And he's 6ft 7, which makes me automatically not like him (I can't take any boxer over 6ft 5 seriously). No chin either. KO waiting to happen.

Atleast he ices them all within 4 lmao

0:15 ROFL this guy is such a joke.

How dare he slip!! bum!!!!

We know this already. He was sent home early from sparring by Wladimir and Haye.

The guy has a weak chin; that's the only explanation for his 'progress' and going after Scott.

Actually he was both of their main sparring partners for a while

i've wondered why the brits seem to hate wilder so much.

i know what it is.


it's fear. you guys are afraid.

EXACTLY

Lets see what he can do against Malik

A brutal KO

[Someone88]

kenny norton got a late start in boxing. he was a scholarship football player, and one of the best track athletes of all time in high school.

he broke the jaw of muhammad ali.

talent is talent, man. american big men are the most talented big athletes on the planet. nobody really comes close. if you got these guys in boxing gyms in their teens they'd be f#cking scary, and you guys would really have something to get scared about


no other country / sport can make the argument made about the HW division being robbed of their talents. the HW championship has historically been held by an american. it's only in the advent of the popularity of football and basketball that american talent has exited the division. it's no coincidence that american HW suck now, and that the world HW suck accordingly.

does that mean that talented american big men are preordained HW champions? no. you'd have to beat wladimir klitschko, and that wouldn't be easy for anybody.

i am saying that these guys are huge and talented to the point that you wouldn't even think they were real. i am saying wilder is not unique. there are thousands of wilders, and they're playing collegiate and professional team sports.


and ye, wilder had a family very young, and skipped out on being a basketball prospect to start boxing. i'm guessing that some cash changed hands while he was an amateur, because the guy had obvious talent and there's such a huge void for american HW. the money is easy to make.

You are saying Americans have the best big athletes in numbers or ratio? Polynesians are more talented in ratio. Tonga and Samoa's population combined isn't even 300,000, but there are still like one or two of them in most NFL teams. Sometimes more.

Many Rugby League and Rugby Union teams have mostly Polynesians. About 50 % or more in some cases.

[LacedUp]

kenny norton got a late start in boxing. he was a scholarship football player, and one of the best track athletes of all time in high school.

he broke the jaw of muhammad ali.

talent is talent, man. american big men are the most talented big athletes on the planet. nobody really comes close. if you got these guys in boxing gyms in their teens they'd be f#cking scary, and you guys would really have something to get scared about


no other country / sport can make the argument made about the HW division being robbed of their talents. the HW championship has historically been held by an american. it's only in the advent of the popularity of football and basketball that american talent has exited the division. it's no coincidence that american HW suck now, and that the world HW suck accordingly.

does that mean that talented american big men are preordained HW champions? no. you'd have to beat wladimir klitschko, and that wouldn't be easy for anybody.

i am saying that these guys are huge and talented to the point that you wouldn't even think they were real. i am saying wilder is not unique. there are thousands of wilders, and they're playing collegiate and professional team sports.


and ye, wilder had a family very young, and skipped out on being a basketball prospect to start boxing. i'm guessing that some cash changed hands while he was an amateur, because the guy had obvious talent and there's such a huge void for american HW. the money is easy to make.

I know he did. However, not to knock Norton or anything like that, but he also lost at top level more often than not, and his success was helped by having one of the best trainers of all times in his corner.

Regardless, looking at the history of boxing, he was one of a kind. A better example would probably be Lennox Lewis who was a star highschool footballer as well.

It is true that America has more big men talent than anyone else, but it's not because of them being american. It's because the focus on sports in america is bigger than anywhere else in the world. I went to Ole Miss for a period of time, and athletes, though being dumber than a brick, were adored in classes by students and teachers alike. When you have that sort of mindset, Athletes are being groomed from the very beginning with a solid school in all of sports.

Now, there's a reason there aren't any heavyweights out there at the moment. It is of course that people would rather become a star in the NFL or NBA than the next heavyweight champion.

And maybe American schools don't focus as much on combat sports as they used to do, which means that the talents out there are wasted or lost- unfortunately.

I think Wilder is a talent though, of course he is. I just don't think he's the next heavyweight champion of the world.

I don't know - I like the fact that he's always looking for the big KO and he seems to be a pretty good finisher after he's got an opponent hurt.

It's also about excitement. Wilder brings a lot of excitement with his KO mentality. It's easy to generate a fan base when you fighting frequently and knocking out opponent after opponent.

I like that as well. It's been a while since we've had a genuine heavyweight going for the kill early on in every fight. In fact, who's the last talent that did that? Shannon Briggs?

It's refreshing having someone knock people out in the first couple of rounds. I just wished he'd step it up a little - not necessarily to top 5 level - but at least fight some of the other guys who's challenged Wlad/Vitali over the last couple of years.

[Someone88]

I know he did. However, not to knock Norton or anything like that, but he also lost at top level more often than not, and his success was helped by having one of the best trainers of all times in his corner.

Regardless, looking at the history of boxing, he was one of a kind. A better example would probably be Lennox Lewis who was a star highschool footballer as well.

It is true that America has more big men talent than anyone else, but it's not because of them being american. It's because the focus on sports in america is bigger than anywhere else in the world. I went to Ole Miss for a period of time, and athletes, though being dumber than a brick, were adored in classes by students and teachers alike. When you have that sort of mindset, Athletes are being groomed from the very beginning with a solid school in all of sports.

Now, there's a reason there aren't any heavyweights out there at the moment. It is of course that people would rather become a star in the NFL or NBA than the next heavyweight champion.

And maybe American schools don't focus as much on combat sports as they used to do, which means that the talents out there are wasted or lost- unfortunately.

I think Wilder is a talent though, of course he is. I just don't think he's the next heavyweight champion of the world.



I like that as well. It's been a while since we've had a genuine heavyweight going for the kill early on in every fight. In fact, who's the last talent that did that? Shannon Briggs?

It's refreshing having someone knock people out in the first couple of rounds. I just wished he'd step it up a little - not necessarily to top 5 level - but at least fight some of the other guys who's challenged Wlad/Vitali over the last couple of years.

Some good points made, definitely the best American athletes are going to the NFL and NBA. I think Britain does and will have more top heavyweights.

Eastern Europe and Central Asia will have more elite heavyweights, since the fall of the Soviet Union many top fighters have come from that region. This will continue to happen.

[yoz]

Atleast he ices them all within 4 lmao

How dare he slip!! bum!!!!


Actually he was both of their main sparring partners for a while
EXACTLY


A brutal KO

Lol. That wasn't a slip. Also, remind me what happened in the Harold Sconiers fight...

Wilder has a chance of getting a title; only if he's matched with feather fisted punchers and bums.