Floyd Mayweather Jr vs. Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

[Shapopojoe]

Sources involved in talks (both sides) tell me TMZ report FALSE. One said: ***39;Absolutely untrue. We still have significant unresolved issues.***39;

— Dan Rafael (@danrafaelespn)

Source involved in deal: ***39;Nothing is happening before mid next week at the soonest. Not that close on (TV) deal terms.***39;

— Dan Rafael (@danrafaelespn)

So, hbo and showtime need to get their collective **** together

[Flash13]

Yeah but you don't know what exactly "unsuccessful" is. Or successful for that matter.

Well when a fighter earns that much over his gt, the fight is extremely successful. In a normal circumstance that would mean the promoter made a killing. See a promoter of a ppv fight doesn't necessarily get 33%. The promoter makes the real money when the fight goes over the fighters gts. So a fighter with a promoter tries to make the gts as high as possible. The gts work to the fighters benefit, because the promoter does not get a cut of the gts. Mayweather gets it all tho, well besides the flat fee to GB.

In my opinion an unsuccessful fight would be one that loses money, which 3 out of the 4 showtime bouts have done. I mean they looked at mayweather's last two bouts. Ortiz (1.25) and Cotto (1.5), and obviously thought he could carry that trend. Let me add Mosley as well (1.4) and marquez(1.1).

[MrRolltide91]

So tmz lied

[Build That Wall]

[IMDAZED]

Well when a fighter earns that much over his gt, the fight is extremely successful. In a normal circumstance that would mean the promoter made a killing. See a promoter of a ppv fight doesn't necessarily get 33%. The promoter makes the real money when the fight goes over the fighters gts. So a fighter with a promoter tries to make the gts as high as possible. The gts work to the fighters benefit, because the promoter does not get a cut of the gts. Mayweather gets it all tho, well besides the flat fee to GB.

In my opinion an unsuccessful fight would be one that loses money, which 3 out of the 4 showtime bouts have done. I mean they looked at mayweather's last two bouts. Ortiz (1.25) and Cotto (1.5), and obviously thought he could carry that trend. Let me add Mosley as well (1.4) and marquez(1.1).

How do you know they've lost money?

[joesaiditstrue]

Think about it this way

How does it serve Espinoza positively to tweet that the rumors are false. these execs don't entertain false rumors..they almost always ignore them out of hand.

He's keeping the hype train in suspense..I'm sure of it

[Flash13]

Didn't know about the ceiling but surely with Manny in the pipeline plus a fair well fight that's going to be contract fulfilled when you crunch all the numbers up? I don't think he's a liability to Showtime however you look at it to be honest.

Outside of Floyd, they do have their problems with Haymon's under hand tactics despite Espinoza saying he was well informed. Hopefully this upcoming fight is a catalyst for getting everybody talking and doing business.

No... they wont break even on this deal no way. But if the pacman fight comes off like everyone supposes it will (the world watching/$$$). I think they will be satisfied with the deal. They got a ton of exposure, and were involved in the top 2 money fights of all time, so in that aspect yes.

[creekrat77]

Brace yourselves for what will happen May 2nd...

[Flash13]

How do you know they've lost money?

Guerrero 870k buys @ 60 = 52.2 million / 2 = 26.1 million + gate (i know they don't get it all, but for argument sake i'm saying they did) = 35 million

The purses for the bout were 36 million gtd. That's not even including advertising (tours, commercials, May day promo (i heard it was A LOT))

[IMDAZED]

Guerrero 870k buys @ 60 = 52.2 million / 2 = 26.1 million + gate (i know they don't get it all, but for argument sake i'm saying they did) = 35 million

The purses for the bout were 36 million gtd. That's not even including advertising (tours, commercials, May day promo (i heard it was A LOT))

You're forgetting rebroadcast rights, foreign tv rights...a bunch of stuff. You just don't know.