In other words im just gonna use Bob Arum as a scapegoat not to fight Pacquaio.
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Originally posted by T18Z View PostOh please, the amount matters, and so does the context, stop whining like a little b1tch. Mayweather was 'willing' to make the fight a few years ago, what happened to his despise for Arum? What happened to not working with him? Use your brain you dumb ass, you don't suddenly switch your tone after not mentioning before and expect people to go yeah ok, that's valid.
It's another roadblock, how ****** are you honestly man? If this was such a big issue before WHY did he not say it in 2009, 2010?
Now answer to what I posted previously.
Originally posted by The Tase View Postyes. you are correct. manny lost his leverage and he has now conceded less money and more testing for floyd and yet floyd still doesnt want to fight him.
Now his new roadblock is arum.
It does work both ways. Only you and floyd refuse to see it.
No matter what the reason- refusing is refusing. Hold him accountable.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Postwhen you offer someone $40 mil to fight and they turn it down, after having turned down 50/50, the reason the fight didn't happen is clear.
Using your logic then it's clear that Floyd NEVER EVER wanted the fight. Never Ever? ...... Never Ever!!!
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostHe has been saying this about arum since the 50/50 offer was rejected. other posters have been showing you this. its nothing new.
Uhh manny changed his tone on PED's and you had no problem with it so why is tone changing an issue now?
He offered manny a fight and manny refused because he thinks he is entitled to more money and a bigger ppv split.
No matter what the reason- refusing is refusing. Hold him accountable.
Captain Save A Hoe
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostHe has been saying this about arum since the 50/50 offer was rejected. other posters have been showing you this. its nothing new.
He offered manny a fight and manny refused because he thinks he is entitled to more money and a bigger ppv split.
No matter what the reason- refusing is refusing. Hold him accountable.
Also, refusing is refusing? You sound like a moron.
If I offered Floyd Mayweather 1$ to fight, meanwhile I take the other 100 million, and he denied, you still gonna say refusing is refusing, hold him accountable? Are you mentally challenged, CONTEXT MATTERS.
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History will never change the fact that floyd was scared to fight manny p in his prime. It was in everybodys face for them to see. Suprised hes still making excuses like this esp seeing how mannys not quite the same fighter. Honestly thought floyd would take the fight next year. Guess hes still alittle shook
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So whats next? Pacquiao has to sign with under Mayweather promotions? or has to fight a couple fights under Mayweather Promotions before landing the fight? How many obstacles have Floyd and Arum dropped to prevent this fight from hapenning? Damn, this ***** is crazy.
just when I think the fight might be near cuz I cant think of any possible road blocks these 2 can come up with, Floyd or Arum open there mouths and remind me why this fight was never done in the first place.
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Originally posted by TAKE THE TEST!! View PostBob Arum has given me so many fights to my liking. Golden Boy, not nearly as much, but only because they haven't been around as long. But I personally don't care who puts on the fight. I've been to TR cards, GB cards, Goosen Tutor cards, etc.
None of that matters though, because I'm getting to see the fights I want to see. The funny thing is, you keep blaming Arum. I blame them all when certain fights don't get made. But history sides with Arum when fights get made. GB is dropping the ball due to their incompetence, or at the request of Floyd. In this instance, the only one making demands and excuses is Floyd Mayweather. Never did he need any extra testing before Manny became a potential opponent. In 2010, he never said he won't work with Arum. A negotiation went down, and Floyd came up with his smear campaign, and then paid a sum of money. How do you negotiate with someone you say you will never work with?
Btw, if you need to question if I'm ******, its more than certain the ******ity lies in with the questioner.
Ok so you are just misguided? The problem is you are not comprehending the facts of this situation as it stands in relief.... I do not consider myself a floyd guy or a Pac guy and I think ALL the various dips and doos of their morality play will lead to the same place. Floyd made some horrible remarks to Pacquio, Pacquio decided not to take a drug test on and on we go....
HOWEVER there are some solid issues here that stand on their own and are justified in blaming for the lack of this fight dude. I am not blaming Arum for everthing, nor am I blaming Pac...I do think Arum is a scumbag...so sue me.
Floyd has a point here. Arum could let this fight happen. Pacquio most probably has been exploited by Arum....I can tell you this from the mere fact of fiducuary trust: the guy who does your taxes should be licensed and should not be a partner of the business who pays you out....you dig?
I actually also believe that if Pac left Arum Floyd would do the fight...I admit this is an opinion but, Floyd does not intend on doing business with king or arum. Finally.....I DON'T blame Floyd on this poit and this point alone... When you patronize scumbage you get what you pay for yes? this might be the issue we don't agree on...you are the guy who wants to pay 89 cents a pound for your turkey and you don't care if they keep the cost down by feeding the birds **** and steriods....then generally speaking your type is the first to cry when you grow a second head from the **** you ate!Last edited by billeau2; 12-20-2013, 05:38 PM.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostHe has been saying this about arum since the 50/50 offer was rejected. other posters have been showing you this. its nothing new.
He offered manny a fight and manny refused because he thinks he is entitled to more money and a bigger ppv split.
No matter what the reason- refusing is refusing. Hold him accountable.
You can present to them questions as to why is it so important to Pac that Arum co-promotes the fight. You can articulate why Arum loses nothing in terms of money and Pac gets the fight he supposedly wants most. They ignore it, and conclude with "Floyd's scare of Pac."
You can present facts where Arum pulled the exact same **** with GBP when he held the A-side and wanted to pay them to step aside because he didne wanna co-promote Donaire-Mares. They ignore it, and conclude that "Floyd's scared of Pac."
You can provide a link to a youtube video where Floyd told Brian Kenny that he didn't wanna work with Arum even before he fought JMM. They ignore it ot and conclude, "this is a new excuse" and "Floyd's scared of Pac."
You can show where Arum had excuses ranging from imaginary cuts to needing to build stadiums as to why Pac couldn't fight Floyd last May. Never happen, "Floyd's scared of Manny."
In the end, these are the craziest mu****as I've ever seen in my life. Its impossible to have a legitimate conversation with them because thir mind is made up. Its like their whole world is based around the illusion that Floyd is somehow scared of Pac. And nothing that happens, including Floyd beating his lil ass senseless in a boxing ring. Because when that happens, they're gonna say "Floyd waited to Pac got old" or "Floyd fought like a ***** and wouldn't stand and trade." These mu****as are nuts. All I can say is I hope they haven't reproduced.
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