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    #21
    Originally posted by Cgarcia View Post
    Let's face it. Many boxers don't trust USADA. But what can they do when powerful people in the sport could pay their cheating ways out of getting caught by hiring USADA. They have the money. Many boxers don't. And the sad thing is the ONE who started it all gets credit for starting and take advantage of it at the same time. He gets away with positive test results, his opponents don't. So much for level playing field.

    Boxers want VADA, Haymon fighters refuse.
    this is the exact type of fan Hauser is attempting to reach out to with these kinds of articles.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Fetta View Post
      Is he aligned with TR? I thought it was just hate and jealousy that fueled his writing.

      I could see it though. No mention pac avoiding tests for years or chavez getting caught then not being tested or nonito attachment to conte who is lnown for passing tests
      Hauser has been aligned with Arum since the Ali days in zaire.

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        #23
        all i know is that as far as credibility in boxing....

        VADA >>>>>>>> USADA

        VADA is not trashing test samples and results, letting fights continue even though a fighter tests positive multiple times for a banned substance, etc...also add to the fact that VADA is far more inexpensive than USADA, and VADA uses CIR testing 100% of the time....

        and VADA has just been more transparent when it comes to testing in boxing...

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          #24
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
          Interesting and remarkable that despite USADA testing no tests was performed for Broner - Malinaggi. Its also notable that Ellerbe doesn't want to elaborate on the USADA agreement. It makes you wonder if its just a PR stunt.
          This highlights yet another problem with the article. It leads folks to believe that there was no random drug testing for Malignaggi vs Broner. But the fact is there was, but it was through USADA. Paulie wanted VADA, but Golden Boy denied and preferred USADA instead. But the article would have you believe nothing was done.

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            #25
            Originally posted by SoggyLungs View Post
            all i know is that as far as credibility in boxing....

            VADA >>>>>>>> USADA

            VADA is not trashing test samples and results, letting fights continue even though a fighter tests positive multiple times for a banned substance, etc...also add to the fact that VADA is far more inexpensive than USADA, and VADA uses CIR testing 100% of the time....

            and VADA has just been more transparent when it comes to testing in boxing...
            They are the same thkng. Only VADA is newer, smaller, cheaper, and focuses on boxing only. I have no problems with ether one.

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              #26
              Originally posted by SoggyLungs View Post
              all i know is that as far as credibility in boxing....

              VADA >>>>>>>> USADA

              VADA is not trashing test samples and results, letting fights continue even though a fighter tests positive multiple times for a banned substance, etc...also add to the fact that VADA is far more inexpensive than USADA, and VADA uses CIR testing 100% of the time....

              and VADA has just been more transparent when it comes to testing in boxing...
              Don't be in such a hurry to believe anything coming out of Conte's mouth. USADA also does CIR testing the same as VADA does. But Conte, who has never worked with USADA and knows nothing about what goes on there internally, would have you believe he knows everything they do and don't do.

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                #27
                Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                This highlights yet another problem with the article. It leads folks to believe that there was no random drug testing for Malignaggi vs Broner. But the fact is there was, but it was through USADA. Paulie wanted VADA, but Golden Boy denied and preferred USADA instead. But the article would have you believe nothing was done.
                To me it said that they agreed on USADA but that USADA did no testing whatsoever.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Fetta View Post
                  They are the same thkng. Only VADA is newer, smaller, cheaper, and focuses on boxing only. I have no problems with ether one.
                  one has been shady in boxing and caught up in controversy and the other hasn't yet at least..one uses CIR testing 100% of the time the other doesn't...one is far more inexpensive the other isn't...etc. etc. etc. the differences goes on....

                  it's no wonder that more boxers ask for VADA testing over USADA....

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                    Don't be in such a hurry to believe anything coming out of Conte's mouth. USADA also does CIR testing the same as VADA does. But Conte, who has never worked with USADA and knows nothing about what goes on there internally, would have you believe he knows everything they do and don't do.
                    not 100% of the time like VADA does...

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                      It's a foolish point to target Haymon fighters as if they are the bad guys, and everyone else is clean. That's what he is suggesting. He didn't say all the top fighters from Golden Boy, Top Rank, and Goosen should enroll into 24/7 testing. The bias against Haymon fighters is extreme and shines bright as the sun.

                      If he were serious, he'd try to shine more light into NSACs random drug testing program. Because if NSAC is pressured enough, they can do 24/7 testing for everyone. And if someone gets caught, we know there will be a penalty, or at least potentially. With VADA 24/7, if a fighter tests positive outside of competition, there will be no penalty! None whatsoever. So what is the point? That writer is such a moron, I guarantee he never even considered this point.

                      Well he seems to think he has reason to have more su****ion of Haymon fighters, perhaps reasons he cannot publish directly. The point is that future opponents who are clean will be significantly less inclined to fight them plus the paying public who ultimately pay the fighters will be less inclined to pay to watch them if they consider them 'cheats'. Whatever else Hauser may be he is clearly not a moron.

                      Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                      he is still currently employed (I believe) as a consultant for HBO. HBO works exclusively with TR.

                      As with the previous pieces, he could leave out the "rumors" stuff and just address the issue. He seems to be addressing only Haymon/GBP fighters, with the usual Mayweather stuff.
                      Ok if that is true then that could well explain the attack being seemingly directed only across the fence. Rumours are of course standard fair in journalism, perhaps most of the time they are just that but other times less is said for legal reasons than perhaps the journalist would ideally like to write. Again his attacks may be unbalanced in one direction, and perhaps as you say somewhat self serving because of his HBO alliance, but not necessarily any less true because of that.

                      Also with the Mayweather's camps claims against Pacquiao is it any wonder that a journalist would want to attack Mayweather and his alliances over doping?

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