Another Hauser Article about PED's

[radioraheem]

Easy tiger,,, didnt mean to make you mad,,,,
I just think the entire industry of boxing is shady,,,, and yes they have 97k samples in their existance,, yet they throw away ones before the fight even happens in some cases,,,, I dont care about tyson's sample from 16 years ago, im talking about recent ones like winky-quillen and the tests were destroyed in less than a month...
If you think doping agencys are above su****ion, than more power to you,,, for me, i think everything involved in boxing is shady, from the managers, strenght coaches, promoters, judges, refs, athletic commissions, fighters, sanctioning bodies,,, etc,, nearly every aspect of the sport is corrupt in one form or another,,, not saying everyone, but the vast majority is very shady,,,
I honestly could care less if these guys dope or not, because the powers that be dont seem to care either,,,,

as for the hatton comment,,, I said it was close, but gave manny the edge because manny fought hatton at his best weight, whereas floyd fought hatton at a weight were hatton was crap at and is 0-3 at except for a shady scoring in the collazo fight,,,
Floyd beat hatton fair and square and a great performance by floyd, but hatton was not as good at welter as he was a jr welter and that is a fact, and manny blew him out in 2....
I could agree with you if hatton was damaged goods but he wasnt,,, he came back and beat down pauli, which is a very hard task to do.. Yes hatton was stopped by floyd, but it wasnt a brutal beatdown like what tito did to joppy,, it was a great win, but hatton could recover from, much like how MAB got stopped by junior jones, but he still went on to become a great champ,,, same thing with hatton, he got beat by floyd at a higher weight but wasnt a career ruining beatdown, as hatton went back down and had some quality wins,,, and then manny ran thru him....om
So i lean towards manny fighting a better version of hatton simply because he fought him at a weight where hatton was kingpin and floyd fought hatton at a weight where he was 0-3 or at best 1-2 with 2 ko losses

I don't think you're aware of this, but it's not a fact that USADA threw away any samples. The information based on that is hearsay. No reporter has yet to ask USADA specifically about it either.

[JaguaresMx]

what i got about that article is that Pacquiao is the poor victim of cheaters. All his rivals are cheaters.

Lampley, Pac, and Hauser are the saviors

[al-Xander]

What I got from that article was Haymon fighters are avoiding VADA, and USADA, which Haymon/GBP and Mayweather prefer, can't be trusted.

[soul_survivor]

Another forced ****-****** term to describe fans who you don't agree with.

Not all fans are extreme or unreasonable. You're no better than the fans that you're whining about. Haters are "nuthuggers" too. You trying to paint anyone who doesn't agree with Hauser and his biased "reporting" is definitely hateful.

Hauser backs up his arguments with facts that either directly back up what he is saying or facts that can be used to infer what he is trying to prove. That's all he can do, his articles are far better than 90% of what's out there.

Like I said either in this thread or another very similar to this, Floyd brought up the whole issue of more stringent PED testing in boxing and I totally agree with that. I have for quite some time.

Yet it was Nonito Donaire a Top Rank promoted fighter who was the first to go down the route of 24/7/365 testing. He gets huge props for that. Floyd on the other hand has been speaking about the issue for a half decade or more and has accused fighters left right and center, yet he himself has never undergone what Donaire has. Floyd has said on countless occasions that he wants a clean sport and that he is willing to put stringent testing out there, who better, than the biggest star in the sport to undertake 24/7/365, what's stopping him? He says his clean, he says he wants to clear the sport of cheats, he says he is honest and hard working, what's stopping him?

I give men like Donaire credit for fighting the best and beating them fair and square.

[Reloaded]

Hauser backs up his arguments with facts that either directly back up what he is saying or facts that can be used to infer what he is trying to prove. That's all he can do, his articles are far better than 90% of what's out there.


Like I said either in this thread or another very similar to this, Floyd brought up the whole issue of more stringent PED testing in boxing and I totally agree with that. I have for quite some time.

Yet it was Nonito Donaire a Top Rank promoted fighter who was the first to go down the route of 24/7/365 testing. He gets huge props for that. Floyd on the other hand has been speaking about the issue for a half decade or more and has accused fighters left right and center, yet he himself has never undergone what Donaire has. Floyd has said on countless occasions that he wants a clean sport and that he is willing to put stringent testing out there, who better, than the biggest star in the sport to undertake 24/7/365, what's stopping him? He says his clean, he says he wants to clear the sport of cheats, he says he is honest and hard working, what's stopping him?

I give men like Donaire credit for fighting the best and beating them fair and square.

Then why is that not a single main stream new agency will run with anything Hauser says , they dont even reference anything he says , why it that he only appears in blogs , I honestly dont think the guy has any creditability at all and Im sure Reuters would have sniffed out any truth in what he has to say , mainstream would be all over it if it could be substantiated .

365 days a year testing is waste of resources for fighters , a fighter trains very different than any other athlete , different in as much as cycling conditioning . A fighter will train to reach his peak in 8-12 wks , and then after competing backs training off to around 30 % , some even nearly stop , until he gets another fight then peaks again for the next fight . An Olympic athlete will compete in well planed cycles of stepped competition over 4 yrs with the aim of being at his peak during the Games , its the nature of knowing your competition dates so far in advance , and know the level of your comp , this is what opens the door to cycling peds and why Olympic sport needs all year testing .

Boxing has a built in randomness to it , makes it very hard for a fighter to benefit from cycling PED use like an Olympic swimmer would , and boxing also has a weight limit they got to stay in and that makes it different to other sports also . The best gains for a fighter is while in training camp training at maximum , and If I were a fighter Id be happy just knowing that no peds were used in camp , the OST testing the way fighters have been doing it in boxing over the last few years Id be very happy with that .

PEDS are not very useful if your not training at maximum .

[RawDawgHasSpokn]

I think the judges and referees are a bigger problem in the sport than PED's. that being said, Thomas Hauser is clearly biased as of late and the proof is in his body of work. He admits to having no proof but nonetheless throws names out there. He immediately accused Marquez of juicing after that slumber party he threw for Pacquiao.

[DeadLikeMe]

If you haven't yet, go look at the USADA and VADA websites.





Look at their about us, their history in testing, just browse both sites. Then make your own judgment about the respective agencies.