Comments Thread For: Timothy Bradley: Marquez Is the Best Fighter I've Faced

[HeroBando]

I wont give bradley any extra points for spraining his ankle but this fight was close and without hbo sucking pacwarrior schlong the whole fight it will appear the competitive fight that it was. i still don't see 8 to 4 for bradley. you'd really have to generously give him every round he was even close to winning but 7 to 5 either way sounds logical. i scored it 7 to 5 pacquiao so using lyle fitzsimmonds 2 point swing 7 to 5 bradley works. but i actually could see 7 to 5 bradley also. and fat slob chavez jr hurt vera with his limited output so i can see him winning that fight also.

Ringside it was scored 9-3 for Pac on average, so it's not all HBO. Hardly anybody scored it close, there were more 11-1 for Pac than 7-5 Pac + draw + Bradley win combined:

[hitking]

Listen people,last night I watched the Bradley and Pac fight. Im a Pac fan,however I'm a boxing fan first. I turned the sound down and watched the fight as a judge. Timothy Bradley won that fight 7 to 5 or possibly even 8 to 4. I have never seen Pac look so sloppy. He missed so many punches that you could tell he took his training lightly and underestimated Bradley. So if anyone has any doubts, then just watch the fight again with the sound turned down. Watch the fight as a judge would. I guarantee you would see that Bradley won that fight. Keep in mind that he also had a sprained ankle. He possibly could really kicked pacman butt.

I've watched the fight numerous times. I don't need to watch it muted because I'm knowledgeable enough as a fight fan to not let the cheerleading affect me. And even though that fight wasn't close to being the highway robbery the Pacquaio fanboys claim it was. I have consistantly scored the fight 8-4 or 7-5 for Pac. I've managed a 9-3 Pac score giving Pac all of the close rounds. And I've managed a draw giving Bradley all of the close rounds. Either way, I walked away from that fight feeling Pac was the superior fighter. And I think that's pretty much how the majority walked away feeling.

BTW, I was rooting for Bradley.

[hitking]

pacman has been consistently in with top competition. no fedchenckos so i'll agree with pacman having the more noteworthy career far and away. sure marquez won the head to head but he was stan to eminem obsessed with this guy and completely dedicated himself to beating pac. pac certainly didn't put forth as much effort trying to beat JMM. JMM is certainly held in a higher regard currently thanks to his stunning KO but it doesn't completely erase everything that happened prior to that in terms of success. I have a feeling Pac will have one more run in him and if Rios doesn't put it down before it gets started we will see the fighter of the decade pacwarrior return to form.

Its not really JMM's fault that Pac has had more noteworthy fights. JMM was pretty much frozen out of that golden era of featherweights that Pac made his name in. Prince Nasim ducked JMM like a plague. His own countryman Barerra and Morales acted like he didn't. Exist. And after the first fight with JMM, Pac went in another direction and HBO kinda did JMM like they're doing Rigondeaux now. And that's why he had to do crazy **** like going to fight Chris John in Indonesia. And it was only after the rematch with Pac did JMM start getting love from the networks. And instead of the weight jumping, "cherrypicking" that other top P4P guys like Floyd and Pac were doing. JMM settled in and went abut trying to clean out the lightweight division. Pac was definitely more popular than JMM. But I wouldn't he was, or his competition was better. His shi was just more glorified because he was a draw. I'd say JMM is very much Pac's equal, if not better. And to be honest, I lean more towards better.

[richardt]

Ringside it was scored 9-3 for Pac on average, so it's not all HBO. Hardly anybody scored it close, there were more 11-1 for Pac than 7-5 Pac + draw + Bradley win combined:

Very true. Collectively, Pac overwhelmingly won the fight. They polled huge numbers of folks in Boxing's inner circle and the dominating consensus is that Pac won.

[The Big Dunn]

Ringside it was scored 9-3 for Pac on average, so it's not all HBO. Hardly anybody scored it close, there were more 11-1 for Pac than 7-5 Pac + draw + Bradley win combined:

Very true. Collectively, Pac overwhelmingly won the fight. They polled huge numbers of folks in Boxing's inner circle and the dominating consensus is that Pac won.

I agree many beat tim, no question. But Tim can still feel JMM is better than Manny based on their series. fight 3 had a large majority of the same writers you reference picking JMM over Manny even though the judges gave it to manny.

right?

[HeroBando]

I agree many beat tim, no question. But Tim can still feel JMM is better than Manny based on their series. fight 3 had a large majority of the same writers you reference picking JMM over Manny even though the judges gave it to manny.

right?

He can feel that way, just like Morales could have felt he had nothing to prove vs MAB, cause he beat Junior Jones who's better than MAB, right?

We went over this a few days ago, JMM's 2nd best win is borderline top 10 for Pac. And most of his better wins were far from dominant: Juan Diaz 1, shot Casa, old MAB.

[The Big Dunn]

He can feel that way, just like Morales could have felt he had nothing to prove vs MAB, cause he beat Junior Jones who's better than MAB, right?

We went over this a few days ago, JMM's 2nd best win is borderline top 10 for Pac. And most of his better wins were far from dominant: Juan Diaz 1, shot Casa, old MAB.

no, its not the same thing.

Now thats not what you said then, so lets not revise that debacle.

The point is the writers opinions you correctly cited for tim v manny are the same ones that-have JMM beating Manny twice and a draw.

If someone thinks jmm is 3-0-1 vs manny they are going to put him above him. I think thats reasonable.

[dynomyte1444]

no, its not the same thing.

Now thats not what you said then, so lets not revise that debacle.

The point is the writers opinions you correctly cited for tim v manny are the same ones that-have JMM beating Manny twice and a draw.

If someone thinks jmm is 3-0-1 vs manny they are going to put him above him. I think thats reasonable.

I have it that way.

JMM 3-0-1 over manny

Its the old debate of natural athleticism vs doing things right. Juan is a better boxer but Pac has better natural ability

[HeroBando]

no, its not the same thing.

Now thats not what you said then, so lets not revise that debacle.

The point is the writers opinions you correctly cited for tim v manny are the same ones that-have JMM beating Manny twice and a draw.

If someone thinks jmm is 3-0-1 vs manny they are going to put him above him. I think thats reasonable.

Tarver > RJJ
Junior Jones > Barrera
Norton = Ali

I understand why you wouldn't wanna revisit what was a debacle for you, but where we left off is with a question mark on whether JMM's 2nd best wins belongs in Pac's top 10. That tells the whole story.

[turnedup]

Take the bait folks lmao...Tim is getting ya'll into debate form so there's a demand for a pacquaio rematch so he can line up his next payday,public demand = a bigger purse than he would've gotten without the public demand. He knows win or lose ain't no Mayweather fight at the end of the tunnel..so whose he gonna fight? Alvarado? Rios? lol..I laugh at boxing these days...boxers have started lining up their next payday before they even finish earning their current purse.