Comments Thread For: Photo: Andre Ward, Gennady Golovkin - Face To Face

[New England]

I also stated that Quillin and Jacobs would be good fights for him where I would consider him elite. I think both of those fights could have been made. You can argue Quillin, but I think the fight could of happened. And Danny Jacobs has no problem with the fight either. Had he beat 1 out of 2 of these guys, I would agree that GGG is this monster you all claim.

jacobs? what?

he's hardly in the top 25, man. he's done nothing with his career. macklin is a much better win. his best win is ishe smith. rosado is a better win than that, and that was several years ago.


don't get me wrong, i appreciate danny a hell of a lot more than most because of his beating cancer. i've seen danny fight live, actually. i want him to do well, and i do think he's got some talent. he got demolished by pirog, and after his layoff he's done nothing since.

[sugarsmosley]

it would ahve to be, in all likelyhood.\

golovkin would take an HBO main event budget for the fight, but ward almost surely would not. he's the A side, and he deserves A side money.

the issue with HBO fights is that the big ones cut into the budget for the rest of the year. hbo ponied up a ton of money for alexander - bradley, for example, and it killed their budget for the rest of the year. the fight was bad for the stock of both, as it ended in a head clash ******.


i don't like to pay extra money on top of the $20 i shell out for each hbo month, but if it gets the fight made i'll do it. it's literaly the only way to make the fight. ward won't take the same money he took for rodriguez when he fights golovkin, and he shouldn't. factor in the extra money golovkin brings, and k2's intent to get some of that back in purses, it's going to be an expensive fight for the network to put on.

Ward vs. GGG would be an awesome, awesome fight. Two undefeated champions, olympians, and this time it'd be competitive unlike the last PPV with undefeated champs (canelo and may). If the card is stacked I could see this fight definitely selling around 750k maybe.

I've been saying this fight is underrated, this is a fight people forget can actually happen!

[J The UnBiased]

jacobs? what?

he's hardly in the top 25, man. he's done nothing with his career. macklin is a much better win. his best win is ishe smith. rosado is a better win than that, and that was several years ago.


don't get me wrong, i appreciate danny a hell of a lot more than most because of his beating cancer. i've seen danny fight live, actually. i want him to do well, and i do think he's got some talent. he got demolished by pirog, and after his layoff he's done nothing since.

I agree that Jacobs hasn't done much either, but I do think he's one of the more talented in the division. I think he beats everyone that GGG has beaten recently.

[dray435]

He Doesnt Belong In The Ring With A Fighter Of Wards Caliber.

Andre Ward would totally outclass and ko that hype job GGG, no question about it.

[slicksouthpaw16]

nobody is blowing hte macklin win out of proportion. he's no world class talent. i've said that all along. what he was was a top 5-10 middleweight, who beat sturm on any honest card, and who gave martinez a very hard fight. its you who isn't giving that win the proper measure of credit.

golovkin is unproven, yet quillin is an elite middleweight? by doing what? fighting winky wright's dead body? quillin has come out and said that he won't fight golovkin.

You obviously brought Macklin up to prove something, which i don't know what. To this date, he's probably the best name on GGG's resume, which is why i find it laughable that you talk about what Quillin hasn't done. Hes an elite middleweight because he actually beat an undefeated champion in his prime (N'Jikim) and his other solid wins. Unlike GGG, Quillin actually beat a champion to get his title. It wasn't given to him.

And make sure your fact's are accurate before putting it out there. Quillin never said that he simply didn't want to fight him. He basically said that it will be bigger when GGG has a bigger name when they both continue to win down the line. He said that the fight is too risky right NOW but said he wants to fight him in the future. I see you are one of the kind of posters that like to twist information, and try to pass it as facts.

golovkin is a higher rated fighter than quillin by anybody who knows anything about the division. that you rank quillin as "elite," while golovkin is not, says all i need to know about your understanding of the division.

So do you think GGG has beaten better fighter's than Quillin?

mayweather was not on the ropes against cotto because he wanted to be, rofl. you think that's how he'd fight cotto if he were 25? go watch that fight again. he was on the ropes because he was on 35 year old legs. he is not the fighter he was 5-10 years ago. golovkin's not going to get on his toes, and it won't be necessitated. he's going to back mayweather up with a jab and land power punches. floyd will back up for the entire fight. against alvarez (a fight i was at) he picked spots to initiate his own jab and use the center of the ring. he would never set his feet any longer than he had to against golovkin. eventually it would lead to him needing the ropes on 36 year old legs, where he'd eat shots and eventually go down.

So why wasn't he on the ropes against Alvarez or Guerrero as much as he was vs Cotto and Oscar? This is why i feel like you don't have a complete grasp of boxing and how/why fighter employ certain tactics. He was on the ropes against Oscar and Cotto, because he knew that they were squared up when they attacked him there. He was comfortable. You didn't see when he slightly buckled Oscar with that straight counter off the ropes? Or how Cotto actually gassed out from attacking Floyd on the ropes and completely faded in the late round's because of it? Floyd knew what he was doing. Against GGG he wouldn't be on the ropes because of the danger factor of fighting a bigger guy. The Alvarez fight showed that he can still box for 12 round's using his legs. When he got on the ropes, it was only for a short time period.

And if you feel like Floyd was on the ropes in the Cotto fight because of his legs, then the same could be said when he fought Chavez at super featherweight, going by your logic. This is exactly what i mean. In the Chavez fight, Floyd was on the ropes early because he felt that he could handle it. When he seen that Chavez was too strong in close, he started to keep the fight in the middle of the ring and pick him apart. Its all how he feels. When they say Floyd is one of the best adjusters of all time, they ain't just talking ****. Now mind you, I'm not even a huge Floyd fan but its clear. I have to question your knowledge, if you think GGG would simply back Floyd into the ropes, beat him up and win by KO that easily.

that you consider alvarez a better p4p puncher than golovkin says all i need to know about your understanding of punching power. if you really believe that then you have no idea what you're looking at when you're watching power punchers. none. that's a laughable notion.

GGG has good power, though he doesn't hit as hard as Mathysse or Wladimir pound for pound. If he scores a one punch KO, its normally with a body shot (which pretty much anyone can do when placed in the right spot). I don't even know if he hits harder than Angulo, who blew Rosado out early while GGG couldn't take him off of his feet. In fact, without all of the blood from cut's, that fight was actually competitive.

these two will never fight, and that supports my argument. mayweather and his people wouldn't touch that fight with a ten foot pole. if they thought it were some easy fight, where they could "pot shot this mfer" they would take the middleweight championship from him. they will never fight, though, and that's because golovkin is too big, and would beat the f#Ck out of any welterweight on the planet.

They said that about Alvarez about how "oh Floyd will never fight him hes too strong and good" so we've all been there before. And do you really think Floyd would, or even should go all the way to 160? I know you're not that simple (though I'm not sure based on some of your posts). GGG has even stated that he would be coming down to 154, so the possibility of him being drained should also be equated.

[HeroBando]

You obviously brought Macklin up to prove something, which i don't know what. To this date, he's probably the best name on GGG's resume, which is why i find it laughable that you talk about what Quillin hasn't done. Hes an elite middleweight because he actually beat an undefeated champion in his prime (N'Jikim) and his other solid wins. Unlike GGG, Quillin actually beat a champion to get his title. It wasn't given to him.

Do you know how NDam got to be the champ? Obviously not. The long version is hilarious, but I'll keep it brief:

1. Jan 2012 he has WBA interim belt, ordered to fight regular WBA champ GGG. He drops the belt, after previously refusing to fight him for vacant regular belt
2. Immediately fights for interim WBO belt after some hilarious shenanigans (look up Equatorial Guinea)
3. Pirog signs to fight GGG, NDam immediately has him stripped 3 months from winning the interim belt
4. Quillin fights him 2 months later

[skinnystev]

the look of fear is palpable on soggys face and very real

[Frank Ducketts]

if the fights ever gets made i will bet you ALL my points that Ward beats GGG anytime, are you up for it?? if not name your points?

If GG gets by Stevens, we will make a bet.

[Frank Ducketts]

Who has he ever beat to suggest that this guy would KO Ward and Mayweather like so many people on here say??? So many people are quick to call greats like Mayweather, Ward and Pacquiao frauds for "cherry picking" their opponents, yet here's some dude who hasn't beaten anyone and everyone's saying he'll KO anyone put in front of him..geez

It's a styles fight with me. Ward lacks a right hand, and his chin isn't wat everyone thinks it is.

[Frank Ducketts]

Such a dumbass. Just because he is P4P 2, next to your man, you will try and hate on him. They say people are scared of threats.

Man **** Ward. I'm not sold on him, and this was a ***** ass thought, lmao.