Comments Thread For: Hopkins Discusses The Mayweather-Canelo Catch-Weight

[Ray*]

Bottom line........

If you complained about Manny's CW against Cotto, you can't support Floyd's with Canelo, it's the exact same thing basically.

If you didn't complain about Manny's CW against Cotto and give him full credit being the better fight, which I always have, than you should do the same with Floyd.

If it's not like that, than you're just a double standard.

Green K... This is exactly my problem with fans that flip flop because of their heroes, I hated the idea of Cotto getting drained and I deride that ****** excuses about how "He weighed 146 against clottey" "it's only one pound" etc and I hated this 152 catchweight fight stipulation too and deride Mayweather (Especially with him taking shots at Pac for his CW's". I like the fight but the only reason you ask for this sort of stipulation is because you want an advantage before you get in the ring with your opponent.

[sampsonsimpson]

You seem to think that makes it better. It doesn't, it makes it worse. Smaller guys ask for CW moving up all the time. Champs never ask for CW when defending their belt, much less when contesting for the Lineal belt. It makes sense, right, because they're admitting they can't compete on level ground, hence paper champ.

never? false

leonard-hearns II

[brick wall]

There's two ways to look at it.

A) Canelo agreed to the catchweight, if he loses the onus is on him.. he signed up for it.

B) If Canelo loses because of the extra weight, although he has himself to blame... it was still a factor, and Floyd did not beat Canelo at his best. One of Floyds main points for fighting Cotto, is he wanted to beat Cotto at his best so he agreed to his weight... however he will most likely NOT be fighting Canelo at his best.

agreed on two ways but i look at it opposite direction. your second point is more on floyd's side. canelo can't use something he agreed on to justify his loss. he should've known better. other people can make excuses for his loss but not him personally. floyd on the other hand will always have a question mark attached should he win and he can't complain because that defect is already there even before he goes up in the ring. his previous comments on catchweights just make it worse for him.

[Fetta]

I really think some of you dont like the sport you just love to hate floyd. This is the fight we all wanted but still complaints are everywhere. "Its at 152"! So what if it was at 154 sone of you would still complain or find ways to discredit. Its already starting with the "Canelo to green" or "stamina issue", which i only noticed in one fight. I fir one am excited for, what i think, is the second biggest fight of the past decade. And both feature Floyd ironically

[Thickback]

right...
when he said i dont take catchweight fight like pac does, then here comes canelo,
floyd: "lets fight @150"
canelo: "152 lets fight"
floyd: "okay thats good for me"

right his not hypocrite

Wasn't it Canelo's people who publicly said they'd fight at 150 first?

[THE REED]

at this point it isn't about floyd as much as it is the poster being a hypocrite or not.

I don't know what you're referring to.

[THE REED]

agreed on two ways but i look at it opposite direction. your second point is more on floyd's side. canelo can't use something he agreed on to justify his loss. he should've known better. other people can make excuses for his loss but not him personally. floyd on the other hand will always have a question mark attached should he win and he can't complain because that defect is already there even before he goes up in the ring. his previous comments on catchweights just make it worse for him.

Forget what Canelo thinks, if the reason he loses comes down to conditioning then the catchweight may in fact be a large reason.

Whether Canelo agreed to it, does not matter... if it affected him, it affected him, period.

P.S. I realized we may in fact be agreeing here lol.

[viperz007]

Wasn't it Canelo's people who publicly said they'd fight at 150 first?

nope it floyds want canelo at 147 or no fight, canelo team said he'l nah
then floyd offer 150, canelo team refused

then canelo team offered 152, floyd "done!"

[The Big Dunn]

I don't know what you're referring to.

it comes down to posters pulling "a floyd" regarding the CW. will they stick to their position or will they change because accepting it means you have to give floyd credit should he win.

FWIW it should be obvious that floyd "wanting cotto at his best" was him making cotto seem better because manny had already defeated him thouroughly. it wasn't literal. but it still makes him hypocritical.

[Zano-24]

The only thing wrong with this fight is that its for a 154 title. If the title wasn't on the line then I wouldn't care. This just shows how titles don't mean **** anymore. You shouldn't restrict a title holder from coming in at the weight cap for the title that its being fought for. Don't get me wrong, Canelo won his first 154 title fighting a WW at a CW and broke the weight contract AND still was awarded the belt. All he had to do was pay the fine. If that was the damn case they should have just had him fight a 154 fighter for the vacant belt. If this fight wasn't for the titles then I would be 100% for it. Even though Floyd fought at 154 twice already with no weight restrictions its hard for me to look past it this time around. I guess he could be cut some slack.