Comments Thread For: Froch Feels Only Lennox Lewis, Not Calzaghe, Tops Legacy

[daggum]

I disagree in the States he was considered the best pound for pound at the time.

actually in the states he was considered the greatest fighter of all time.

[Weebler I]

You don't have to but it but there's no way Froch's record will stand up to Joe's without.

Both Golovkin and Martinez are MW's. Hopkins was a LHW that Joe beat, not only a major difference in talent but in weight.

Martinez just in many people's eyes lost to Murray, come on Martinez might be A level of his division but slipping fast and is a MW and not that big of one to start with.

I'm just saying, I don't agree with the rationale that Froch should have to beat Hopkins or Ward to be classed with Calzaghe. There are a lot of top fighters in and around 160/168/175, if he can beat a few more top fighters then he can clearly surpass JC (if he hasn't already).

Martinez may not be a B level fighter. But, what he is is highly overrated.

Too foreign?

[DreamFighter]

I disgaree Joe never ducked people

never ducked? what do you call fighting a string of domestic bums for years when you are supposed to be a WORLD champion. World to me means world not your best mate who s retiring next week and wants a last payday. A real champion would have gone out and headhunted the best opps, period.

those who don't like Joe keep saying that I will say agaian like I have said on here before - when Joe fought Lacey- Mayweathr and Pac

you have got to be kidding me. Should I start on what does make sense on this paragraph, its a much shorter task.

All the evidence points to JC being only slightly post prime when he fought Jones, Kessler and Hopkins. Kessler and Lacy were his best defences so that's his prime, that's the only way you can read it.

I'm not saying everyone he fought was a bum, Bika can **** and pressure like anyone, Reid is a clever little boxer for instance but when its overwhelmingly bums for a decade (A DECADE, jeez, English champions have better streaks) then how can you argue its better than Frochs string of fearsome opps.

[DeepSleep]

I disgaree Joe never ducked people those who don't like Joe keep saying that I will say agaian like I have said on here before - when Joe fought Lacey- Mayweathr and Pac had not established themselves to where they are today , Lacey was then considered to be the best pound for pound at the time and Joe not only beat him but did this resoundly - Lacey never recovered from that (that is why I say Froch needed to beat Ward to be on Joe's level) he beat Biko who is tsill considered up in the top 10 today - after Hopkins lost to Joe looked what he has accomplished so not all that bad for Joe - Hopkins has beaten alot of top fighteres recently - ok Roy was past his best but Joe was also past his best at that stage and watching Joe for years he would of figured a prime Jones junior out as Joe adapts in the ring - his fight against Eubank was a classic a underdog going into the fight but what afight that was - so I will always back Joe because this guy has accomplished what no other British fighter has and his name is in the Hall of Fame. Ring ****zine have also rated Joe as one off the best so this is not just comuing from me.

Jeff Lacy has never been in a P4P top ten list on ESPN or Ring ****zine. He was never considered great.

[Ravens Fan]

Too foreign?

Nope he is just highly overrated regardless of where he was born. And I even like him and consider myself a fan.

[Yaconcha]

i cant believe im reading this! ok carl, back to earth...joe calzaghe=unbeaten. unmatched.
fought the best that was there and moved up to beat the great bernard hopkins easily and finished with a fight he chased since dethroning chris eubank. unmatched.
exciting as you are i can name atleast three fighters of recent yrs who were more exciting...
nigel benn,naseem hamed and ricky hatton.
weve had million dollar entrances, multiple knockdowns, upsetting the odds, back from the brink and all sorts but, one thing we all know carl froch has for sure.....Huge balls and heart and comes to fight.
thar will never be disputed.

[DreamFighter]

i cant believe im reading this! ok carl, back to earth...joe calzaghe=unbeaten. unmatched.
fought the best that was there and moved up to beat the great bernard hopkins easily and finished with a fight he chased since dethroning chris eubank. unmatched.

that's very true. Froch would never wait till a boxer was fortysomething before facing them, nor would he entertain the idea of fighting weakened opponents unless he HAD too. He would laugh at the suggestion. He would want them as prime as possible. I'd prefer that too, but maybe you think the upcoming Jones-Collins fight will be fight of the century, each to their own.

can name atleast three fighters of recent yrs who were more exciting...nigel benn,naseem hamed and ricky hatton.

I can think of many more exciting ones, all those Clones cyclones clones for a start. but they didn't achieve more than froch.

weve had million dollar entrances, multiple knockdowns, upsetting the odds, back from the brink and all sorts but, one thing we all know carl froch has for sure.....Huge balls and heart and comes to fight.
thar will never be disputed.

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