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Originally posted by butterfly1964forget sonny, rocky didn't want none of floyd patterson lol!
that is actually true
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Originally posted by YogiForget Marciano. Forget Liston. Forget Patterson...Ali didn't want any part of Duane Bobick! LOL!
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Originally posted by butterfly1964i'm sure that is not true.
Are you sure it is not true?
Or, seeing as you absolutely love Ali so much, are you just hoping that it wasn't true?
Anyways, the fact of the matter is, Ali & Bobick were signed to fight in the spring of 1977, which was to be part of a MSG Heavyweight doubleheader featuring that title fight and a top contenders' battle between Ken Norton & Ron Lyle. But supposedly Ali got cold feet (that's according to then MSG matchmaker, Teddy Brenner, who put the whole card together) once he started believing all the hype that surrounded Bobick at the time, and instead of going through with the fight, he announced his retirement from the ring instead. But once, and this is the funny part...once the Norton/Bobick fight was signed in place of the previously scheduled doubleheader, Ali miraculously & quickly announced that he was fit to return to the ring and soon after signed for a defense against Alfredo Evangelista.
That's the short version of the story, but you can find the whole story of Ali's chicken **** antics on that occasion in Teddy Brenner's book, "Only The Ring Was Square"...Check your local library, Butterfly, and you shall read it for yourself.
Your precious Muhammad Ali was scared of Duane Bobick!
LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!
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Originally posted by YogiLOL!
Are you sure it is not true?
Or, seeing as you absolutely love Ali so much, are you just hoping that it wasn't true?
Anyways, the fact of the matter is, Ali & Bobick were signed to fight in the spring of 1977, which was to be part of a MSG Heavyweight doubleheader featuring that title fight and a top contenders' battle between Ken Norton & Ron Lyle. But supposedly Ali got cold feet (that's according to then MSG matchmaker, Teddy Brenner, who put the whole card together) once he started believing all the hype that surrounded Bobick at the time, and instead of going through with the fight, he announced his retirement from the ring instead. But once, and this is the funny part...once the Norton/Bobick fight was signed in place of the previously scheduled doubleheader, Ali miraculously & quickly announced that he was fit to return to the ring and soon after signed for a defense against Alfredo Evangelista.
That's the short version of the story, but you can find the whole story of Ali's chicken **** antics on that occasion in Teddy Brenner's book, "Only The Ring Was Square"...Check your local library, Butterfly, and you shall read it for yourself.
Your precious Muhammad Ali was scared of Duane Bobick!
LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!
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Originally posted by PBF34dude, what a weak argument. it was 1977. ali fought holmes, the far superior fighter, instead of bobick, who got ko'd by norton that next fight
I wouldn't think so considering those are the shortened FACTS presented by the MSG matchmaker of the time, and the guy who originally signed the fight between Ali & Bobick...Are you going to tell me Teddy Brenner didn't know what he was talking about in regards to that whole situation, and that somehow you do?
Ali didn't fight Holmes til three and a half years after the planned Bobick fight, so...that "weak" point of yours is irrelevant. And what Bobick did right after Ali pulled out of their fight doesn't have anything to do with it, either, because it doesn't change the FACT that Ali pulled out of the Bobick fight that was scheduled in the spring of '77.
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Originally posted by Mike Tyson Jr.oh yeah a sloppy 185 lb.
overrated slow fighter could
have beat Tyson. oh ok. thats
why Sloppiano got knocked down
by Archie Moore. Oh MY GOd
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Originally posted by Mike Tyson Jr.Rockys best victory was
against Louis who was old as
all hell when he fought Sloppiano.
LOL. Rocky retired and never returned
when he was young enough to challenge
Sonny Liston. He didnt want none of that.
LOL
tyson was beat by, douglas, Williams, Holyfield (twice), Mcbride, and Lewis.
Who did Rocky lose to? He had a chin of steel, and a way more one punch power than your boy Tyson. He may not have had the talent but he had way more heart and power than the rapist himself.
Marciano would crush Tyson. Tyson had a mental advantage over many of his opponents, not because he was smart, but because he intimidated them. Tyson would never have intimidated a man like Marciano.
Marciano by late round KO.
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and just because you get knocked down does not mean that you have a weak chin. Look at Tito he has been knocked down many times in the early rounds to then KTFO of that same opponent later on. Getting knocked down is not what counts, Its who wins, and guess who won that fight, Marciano by KO.
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