How did pacquiao "drain" cotto????????????????

[revs1227]

HONESLTY I HATE strating threads anymore but this really got on my nerves every other post was about a "catch weight " wand weight drain "

and im saying h.o one sec.... wtf

this site has gone to such complete and utter **** since i joined that i rarely even post anymore,but this got on my nerves
once again there's just no getting through to ppl who can use simple math, logic,common sense

[BoxingGenius27]

Honestly, at the time, I was more surprised at Pac's unwillingness to be randomly drug tested following his win over Cotto than I thought Pac weight drained him.

Although, I was curious at how Pac fought DLH at 147 a year prior, I didn't really see the weight being an issue.

Did I think Pac was on something when he fought Cotto? That was more of a concern than the weight issue.

[Potent]

It wasn't 1lb. It was 2lbs. Cotto weighed in for Clottey at 146 yes. But he didn't stay at 146. It's not like he was walking around at 146 and only had 1 more pound to lose in his training camp leading to the Pac fight. He gained weight back and every training camp is a new struggle to make weight.

Should Cotto have been able to weigh-in comfortably in his next fight after Pac at 144? It's only 1 more pound than his previous fight right?

[J-Smooth]

cotto wasnt drained at all

this is what drained looks like...


now here's what cotto looked like



he looks to be in great shape he's not pale and lifeless he's got plenty of color looks to be in great shape

[Perro]

cotto wasnt drained at all

this is what drained looks like...


now here's what cotto looked like



he looks to be in great shape he's not pale and lifeless he's got plenty of color looks to be in great shape

Good post.

[Jam Jars]

When a fighter is already dehydrating a lot of weight common ****ing sense tells you having to lose an extra 1lb is going to weaken them more.

[revs1227]

You clearly don't know much about this weight stuff.

When you're at you lowest weight, losing one extra pound is incredible hard because in order to weight less you have to lose some muscle mass and not just fat. Burning muscle mass is incredibly hard to do and it's something that clearly debilitates the body since it's a process done automatically when you're in a state of starvation.

So in this case if Cotto lowest weight was 147 (example) and he had to go down to 145, he had to weight drain himself by a lot of dehydration but also by burning muscle mass during training by doing even more cardio, lowering his caloric intake (also debilitating him) or both of them.

Pacquiao on the other hand actually fought ODLH at 145 pounds, and Hatton at 140, but for Pacquiao it was a lot easier to get up to 145 again because of several reasons.
First, muscle memory. Once your body has made a certain weight it's easier to get back to that weight again because of muscle memory.
Second, water weight. Pacquiao didn't have to win a lot of muscle mass (which is still easier than burning muscle mass) but just didn't have to dehydrate as much. So if he was dehydrating to around 5-6% of his body weight to make 140, then he only dehydrated 2-3% to make 145, which is a lot easier than dehydrating 6-7% (like Cotto maybe did) and losing mass.

Now I'm not defending Cotto (I don't like him) but I'm just telling you that this isn't as easy as most people think it is. It's not just about losing one pound or winning 7, it's about what's behind that.

i appreciate a logical argument as yours
but i dont understand is that no one said anything ab clottey who almost beat cotto who weighed in at 146 .. weight was not an issue but 145 was the biggest deal only after he was beaten to a pulp
and i love cotto go to all his fights and always root for him (im part pr and just got back from pr )
imo its a b.s excuse

[hugh grant]

Pac didnt drain Cotto. If Cotto is better than you he will beat you. Its not as simple as asking Cotto to drop 2lbs and then you will beat Cotto.

Look how Cotto struggled with Clottey and look how Pac dealt with the same Clottey. Open your eyes.
Its just Pac is better, plain and simple.

[revs1227]

When a fighter is already dehydrating a lot of weight common ****ing sense tells you having to lose an extra 1lb is going to weaken them more.

weight ws never an isuue until after his loss to Paquiao

[revs1227]

Pac didnt drain Cotto. If Cotto is better than you he will beat you. Its not as simple as asking Cotto to drop 2lbs and then you will beat Cotto.

Look how Cotto struggled with Clottey and look how Pac dealt with the same Clottey. Open your eyes.
Its just Pac is better, plain and simple.

i wont take the clottey thing to account b.c triangle theories

but yes pac beats cotto 9/10 from 140-154
having said that
may beats them both 9/10 140-154