Why isn't Pac fighting Bradley at his strongest/most proven weight (140)?

[Yogi007]

I can't believe this thread is even still going on. I doubt that Pac is going to weigh any more them 147 on fight night. I don't see where that is going to make much of a difference on Pac's performance if the fight would happen in either weight class. Bradley will be facing the same Pac. As far as Bradley goes, if he feels that it is going to give him a bigger edge by dehydrating himself clear down to 140 then rehydrate up to 160+, then it does for him to only have to dehydrate to 147, then by all means do it.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Homie you out your f-ckin mind to think Abregu was on callazo level when hatton fought him.

What was Collazo's best win??If not over a top 5 opponent gimmie a fuccking break...Its not out of this world to believe Abregu had a shot at beating him...

[Twako]

this thread sucks. cant believe it's being discussed.

[madsweeney]

You just answered your own question. I think Bradley will be at a disadvantage at 147 because just because his walk around weight is bigger than Pac's, that doesn't necessarily mean that 147 is his strongest weight. Just look at Hatton.

Yes, Bradley and Pac are the same physical size, but Pac is obviously the more stronger/powerful fighter at 147.

Or do you think that Pac isn't the stronger more powerful puncher at 147 despite Bradley and Pac being the same size?

So he'll be at a disadvantage because if they fought at 140, it'd be closer to Pac's walking weight?!? Why would the bigger guy have an advantage for having to cut more weight. You make no sense. This isn't about punching power, if anything Bradley may punch harder at 147, we don't really know. At 147 Bradley will be healthier than 140. Would he have success against other WW's who cut from 165-170, we don't know but he's not fighting one of those guys

Great, so you agree that Pac doesn't fight at his walk around weight at 147; he probably cuts.

That means all the "Pac's so small" comments can go out the window.

Wow, he cuts 5 lbs from his walking around weight. Must be huge, lets ignore that most WW's walk around 170, obviously Pac is the same size.

[BoxingGenius27]

So he'll be at a disadvantage because if they fought at 140, it'd be closer to Pac's walking weight?!? Why would the bigger guy have an advantage for having to cut more weight. You make no sense. This isn't about punching power, if anything Bradley may punch harder at 147, we don't really know. At 147 Bradley will be healthier than 140. Would he have success against other WW's who cut from 165-170, we don't know but he's not fighting one of those guys

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Out of everything I said, how did you come up with the bold?

Let me ask you a question Madsweeney. Did you see Bradley's sole claim to fame at 147; his fight with Abregu that is?

Did you even see that fight?

Nothing in that fight spells stronger than Pac at anything. Nothing, nothing.

Then you go on to say that Bradley possibly punches harder than Pac at 147 LMAO

Again, did you even see Bradley fight at 147? What in Bradleys 1 fight at 147 gave you any kind of indication that Bradley will be the stronger fighter and hit harder.

Now, based off what I just said, ask yourself the same questions I just asked, instead replace 147 with 140. Even a t 140, I still don't think Bradley can compete with Pac, but bigger fighter or not, Bradley has a better chance at beating Pac at 140 than he does at 147.

How do I know? Look at Bradley's fights with Alexander, Holt, Witter, and Peterson; then look at his fight with Abregu.

Wow, he cuts 5 lbs from his walking around weight. Must be huge, lets ignore that most WW's walk around 170, obviously Pac is the same size.

Once again, when you say HUGE, are you referring to size or power?

Are you saying that because Pac only cuts 5 pounds and isn't a HUGE WW physically that Pac can't be a stronger fighter and more powerful puncher than a WW who walks around at 170? Are you saying this?

Do you even know the difference between being a strong WW and being a physically big WW?

[Twako]

pac is campaigning and has a belt at 147. bradley wants to be recognized and wants to fight the best at WW. bradley is the one chasing the fight in the beginning. so why in the ****in hell would you even think about creating this thread and blame it on pac for not fighting timmehh at 140? and do we even need to ask, who's the draw???

[BoxingGenius27]

pac is campaigning and has a belt at 147. bradley wants to be recognized and wants to fight the best at WW. bradley is the one chasing the fight in the beginning. so why in the ****in hell would you even think about creating this thread and blame it on pac for not fighting timmehh at 140? and do we even need to ask, who's the draw???

Like I said before, if Bradley tried to get this fight at 140, but Team Pac only allowed 147, I have a problem with that; being that Bradley has several solid wins at 140 and 1 descent win at 147. What's wrong with seeing it like that?

On the other hand, if Bradley had absolutely no problem with fighting Pac at 147 because he's trying to get paid, not because Team Pac made 147 the sole option, then by all means, they should fight at 147.

I just wanted to make sure this fight wasn't adding on to the historic trend Team Pac has had at fighting people at their not so strong weight (i.e Cotto, Margarito, and asking Shane to fight at 142 lb's after his victory over Margarito). Is this not a valid question?

[Bermuda]

why didn't floyd fight hatton at his strongest/most proven weight?

[madsweeney]

Out of everything I said, how did you come up with the bold?

Let me ask you a question Madsweeney. Did you see Bradley's sole claim to fame at 147; his fight with Abregu that is?

Did you even see that fight?

Nothing in that fight spells stronger than Pac at anything. Nothing, nothing.

Then you go on to say that Bradley possibly punches harder than Pac at 147 LMAO

Again, did you even see Bradley fight at 147? What in Bradleys 1 fight at 147 gave you any kind of indication that Bradley will be the stronger fighter and hit harder.

Now, based off what I just said, ask yourself the same questions I just asked, instead replace 147 with 140. Even a t 140, I still don't think Bradley can compete with Pac, but bigger fighter or not, Bradley has a better chance at beating Pac at 140 than he does at 147.

How do I know? Look at Bradley's fights with Alexander, Holt, Witter, and Peterson; then look at his fight with Abregu.



Once again, when you say HUGE, are you referring to size or power?

Are you saying that because Pac only cuts 5 pounds and isn't a HUGE WW physically that Pac can't be a stronger fighter and more powerful puncher than a WW who walks around at 170? Are you saying this?

Do you even know the difference between being a strong WW and being a physically big WW?

Damn you dumb.

[littlemac]

pac is campaigning and has a belt at 147. bradley wants to be recognized and wants to fight the best at WW. bradley is the one chasing the fight in the beginning. so why in the ****in hell would you even think about creating this thread and blame it on pac for not fighting timmehh at 140? and do we even need to ask, who's the draw???

The Irony of a pacfan making a statement like this while giving Manny full credit for winning 147 and 154 title at Mannyweight lol...