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**LeadUppercut** · 12-30-2011, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by woo9115 View Post

Sergio Martinez is the Middleweight Champion... The Ring Belt is the only thing that matters.... WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO are stepping stone... Rated in the Ring; you're Ranked.... Rated #1, 2, 3 in the WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO; your promoter is big and you had $$$ to buy the Rank... WBA Super, WBA Regular, WBC Diamond; what is that nonsense? Oh sanctioning fees!!! The Ring is most legit....

I agree with you, but think that you have gone too far.

NOBODY is definitive, not even TheRing. I admit that they have much more credibility than the ABC bodies, but they are not definitive and have recently made some seriously ****** decisions.

**Catrin** · 12-30-2011, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by Hitman932 View Post

What a bunch of **** JCC Jr. fans are.

Wouldn't know a real champion from a bum off the street.

damm it seems like you are more sore than Martinez Himself!!!
LOL... you wouldnt know a cheap belt(payday) from a real money making fight vs pirog!

Lol ****...? u must be some sore Che de mierda & if not just plain ignorant!
what a P U S S Y! to bad mouth someone on line! act tough and call people names....
i talk boxing from my point of view not ACT Like a TRUE *** & Disrespect people that are behind a keyboard acting like 13Itches.....

what a bunch of f u k i n g! ignorants cant seem to understand that Veneno is the eliminator mandatory challenger way before martinez...!

**liuj88** · 12-30-2011, 11:10 PM

I can understand that everyone's looking for a payday, and trying to avoid difficult matchups--Martinez included. That's just business, I suppose, whether we, the fans, like it or not.

This is why the sanctioning bodies should be responsible for forcing the contenders/champions to fight, at the risk of the belt being stripped from the champion.

What really frustrates me is not the trash talking, or the jockeying for position, from the boxers, or promoters protecting their assets, but the very blatant, shameless inconsistency of the WBC. First, it declares that JCC Jr. and Martinez fight, then allows JCC Jr.-Rubio to proceed. Truly, truly awful.

**liuj88** · 12-30-2011, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by porknchili View Post

Sergio honestly should just shut up with all of this press that he does everyday. It gets really annoying seeing him say "oh Chavez jr. this and that. Oh I hate him blah blah blah blah blah." Now he relinquishes his Diamond belt and expects a fight? He just loves to do ****** things huh? DiBella and his own stubbornness will now prevent any real fights for him. He isn't going to fight Pirog, Geale, Sturm, or Golovkin since they are "big names" like Mayweather or Pacquiao and he isn't going to be fighting any 154 or 168lbers. Even if Chavez jr. beats Rubio (pretty good chance as well) I doubt that Martinez will do anything different to get a fight with him. Now that he doesn't have the diamond belt (lol), Chavez jr. has no reason to fight him at all since the WBC can't force him. Essentially, he shot himself in the foot. He also probably thinks that Mayweather and Pac might fight him now... He has spent nearly 2 years calling them out, shouldn't he kinda get it by now that they aren't going to fight him? It's just common sense when you're 2 weight classes above them.

Sergio is probably just going to have a few more fights against decent fighters and just retire now that he's up in age. He's not getting any big fights anytime soon.

I understand that Martinez has even less leverage without a belt, but I believe he had no choice but to vacate. After all the talk coming from Martinez, he can't just sit quietly and accept the WBC's reversal, or he will lose face. (At this point, "face" is all he has.)

**dman663** · 12-31-2011, 07:27 AM

who is the real liar?

Its funny how martinez is calling chavez a lie and vacating the belt fake or not. I have never heard him call out chavez jr. he only takes on nobody's. Andy Lee is out there , where is martinez. Thw WBC said after this next bout it is martinez vs chavez, so what is the problem. I think he does not want a match with chavez, that is why he is vacating the belt.If he waits a few months he will be next. It does not make sense. Anyway he had macklin lined up before WBC mandated the bout.Martinez only calls out people who he is bigger than manny, floyd. What about ward, bute, froch, sturm, Lee, canelo, cotto, dirrell, the list is plentiful. He only fights untalented fighters that are marketed as quality. Who is the real liar?

**LeadUppercut** · 12-31-2011, 05:54 PM