Freddie Roach "Who The F*** Are Mayweather & Bradley? We'll Fight Martinez @ 150"

[pasawayako]

they are like small kids who want to have all the toys. sample: pac is overrated, he's one-dimensional, he's amateurish, he fought nothing but weight-drained over the hill boxers who came off of devastating losses, he is easy to hit. in the next sentence you will see the opposite. he's too good. he has to be on something. he's using peds. you don't need evidence for that. you don't need to sue either. he's using steroids because i say so. i'm a child and an idiot.

U define the *****s perfectly.

[fearlessbong]

pacquiao looked good in his last fight?

pacquiao seems to always want to call the shots.. who the **** is he!

timothy is a much better boxer than margarito and i don't recall clottey bein to popular

LOLzzz timothy is not only a better boxer but the greatest head****er (headbutt fighter) hahahaha.

[Brother Jay]

ha ha, who did floyd beat to be p4p no1 way back when? He seemed to stay no1 for ducking and diving and retiring. Pac beat barrera, morales and JMM so should have been no1 on paper even if officially he wasnt deemed to be. What top p4p fighters did floyd beat to become no1 by your logic? WHile your at it, what great fighters has Sergio beat as well?
Pac demolished hatton better than Floyd and DLH so is deserving of no1 and everyone knows it.

Floyd seemed to be no1 on the basis he was american. Ducking cotto and margraito also kept him at no1 for some reason.

What seems to be beyond your comprehension Hugh Grant, is that Pacquiao targets names, not top talent.

Floyd has spent the last 14 years fighting the #1 & #2 in each division he's competed in. The only instance where he didn't face the #1 in a division was when Kostya Tszyu demanded a 60-40 split and would budge.

Pacquiao padded his record with his first 40 fights in southeast Asia. While he was avoiding real competition, he was knocked out twice by journeymen. He's been outboxed by a brawler in Erik Morales, and he in most minds lost both fights to Marquez. Then after Marquez in 2008, Pacquiao NEVER faced a top 3 fighter, and its now 2011 going into 2012.

That's the difference Hugh Grant.

One boxer fights the best in any division he's competing in.

The other looks for catchweight matches, vacant title bouts and gets knocked out.

Morales beat Pacquiao and then got dominated by Zahir Raheem. Pacquiao chose to fight against the loser and avoided the winner.

Mayweather fights winners(except in the case of Judah) and champions.

Pacquiao actually targets losers and banned fighters as opponents.

And let us not forget that Pacquiao's last 6 opponents were ALL coming off the biggest losses of their careers. Then they had a tune up against a club fighter or 2 and then they lost to Pacquiao as if they were ever back on top.

Mayweather's last 2 opponents were the #1 and #2 WW champions of the world.

Pacquiao's last 2 opponents were Mosley after Floyd dominated him and he got a draw against Mora ... and Margarito who actually banned for cheating during his match wirh Pacquiao!

Don't pretend to be serious with me, peasant. You are not a serious man. You cling to bedtime stories and dream of a day when your favorite peasant will legitimately win against a top fighter without having to manipulate weight or wait for them to be coming off of a loss.

Next you'll be talking about writer awards that Manny had GIVEN to him, but didn't earn. Boxers EARN in the ring, not at the podiums and press conferences.

Pacquiao's best opposition was Marquez and we saw how those matches went. We know that both Barrera and Morales avoided him for years.

All of Pacquiao other wins came over club fighters, dehydrated losers and banned fighters.

Check his record. You'll see that there is no mistake in what I've written.

[Toyman]

What seems to be beyond your comprehension Hugh Grant, is that Pacquiao targets names, not top talent.

Floyd has spent the last 14 years fighting the #1 & #2 in each division he's competed in. The only instance where he didn't face the #1 in a division was when Kostya Tszyu demanded a 60-40 split and would budge.

Pacquiao padded his record with his first 40 fights in southeast Asia. While he was avoiding real competition, he was knocked out twice by journeymen. He's been outboxed by a brawler in Erik Morales, and he in most minds lost both fights to Marquez. Then after Marquez in 2008, Pacquiao NEVER faced a top 3 fighter, and its now 2011 going into 2012.

That's the difference Hugh Grant.

One boxer fights the best in any division he's competing in.

The other looks for catchweight matches, vacant title bouts and gets knocked out.

Morales beat Pacquiao and then got dominated by Zahir Raheem. Pacquiao chose to fight against the loser and avoided the winner.

Mayweather fights winners(except in the case of Judah) and champions.

Pacquiao actually targets losers and banned fighters as opponents.

And let us not forget that Pacquiao's last 6 opponents were ALL coming off the biggest losses of their careers. Then they had a tune up against a club fighter or 2 and then they lost to Pacquiao as if they were ever back on top.

Mayweather's last 2 opponents were the #1 and #2 WW champions of the world.

Pacquiao's last 2 opponents were Mosley after Floyd dominated him and he got a draw against Mora ... and Margarito who actually banned for cheating during his match wirh Pacquiao!

Don't pretend to be serious with me, peasant. You are not a serious man. You cling to bedtime stories and dream of a day when your favorite peasant will legitimately win against a top fighter without having to manipulate weight or wait for them to be coming off of a loss.

Next you'll be talking about writer awards that Manny had GIVEN to him, but didn't earn. Boxers EARN in the ring, not at the podiums and press conferences.

Pacquiao's best opposition was Marquez and we saw how those matches went. We know that both Barrera and Morales avoided him for years.

All of Pacquiao other wins came over club fighters, dehydrated losers and banned fighters.

Check his record. You'll see that there is no mistake in what I've written.

:gay:

[hugh grant]

What seems to be beyond your comprehension Hugh Grant, is that Pacquiao targets names, not top talent.

Floyd has spent the last 14 years fighting the #1 & #2 in each division he's competed in. The only instance where he didn't face the #1 in a division was when Kostya Tszyu demanded a 60-40 split and would budge.

Pacquiao padded his record with his first 40 fights in southeast Asia. While he was avoiding real competition, he was knocked out twice by journeymen. He's been outboxed by a brawler in Erik Morales, and he in most minds lost both fights to Marquez. Then after Marquez in 2008, Pacquiao NEVER faced a top 3 fighter, and its now 2011 going into 2012.

That's the difference Hugh Grant.

One boxer fights the best in any division he's competing in.

The other looks for catchweight matches, vacant title bouts and gets knocked out.

Morales beat Pacquiao and then got dominated by Zahir Raheem. Pacquiao chose to fight against the loser and avoided the winner.

Mayweather fights winners(except in the case of Judah) and champions.

Pacquiao actually targets losers and banned fighters as opponents.

And let us not forget that Pacquiao's last 6 opponents were ALL coming off the biggest losses of their careers. Then they had a tune up against a club fighter or 2 and then they lost to Pacquiao as if they were ever back on top.

Mayweather's last 2 opponents were the #1 and #2 WW champions of the world.

Pacquiao's last 2 opponents were Mosley after Floyd dominated him and he got a draw against Mora ... and Margarito who actually banned for cheating during his match wirh Pacquiao!

Don't pretend to be serious with me, peasant. You are not a serious man. You cling to bedtime stories and dream of a day when your favorite peasant will legitimately win against a top fighter without having to manipulate weight or wait for them to be coming off of a loss.

Next you'll be talking about writer awards that Manny had GIVEN to him, but didn't earn. Boxers EARN in the ring, not at the podiums and press conferences.

Pacquiao's best opposition was Marquez and we saw how those matches went. We know that both Barrera and Morales avoided him for years.

All of Pacquiao other wins came over club fighters, dehydrated losers and banned fighters.

Check his record. You'll see that there is no mistake in what I've written.

Pac beat the p4p no1 or 2 in the world in barrera. Who did Floyd beat to be no1? Hernandez perhaps? Hernandez might have been the best in his division, but he wasnt p4p top 5 so who did Floyd beat to be no1 above Pac. Gatti, perhaps, maybe Manfredy? Again also tell me what great fighters sergio beat for years and years that made him no2 as well! Im going by your logic and your boasts dont seem to marry up with your own logic.
The Cotto pac beat would have beat anyone Floyd ever fought while im at it.

So what if Floyd beat grandad SSM. In hindsight SSM isnt that great so why should floyd get credit for beating SSM? Thats like trying to get a ***** to give Pac credit for beating DLH! DLH was a beast who was supposed to beat Pac like he was his daddy, but it didnt map out like people planned.
Im succint and to the point unlike you. Who is a salesman.......cowboy salesman that is trying to blind people with jargon.

[Kilrain]

Floyd has spent the last 14 years fighting the #1 & #2 in each division he's competed in. The only instance where he didn't face the #1 in a division was when Kostya Tszyu demanded a 60-40 split and would budge.

Pacquiao padded his record with his first 40 fights in southeast Asia. While he was avoiding real competition, he was knocked out twice by journeymen. He's been outboxed by a brawler in Erik Morales, and he in most minds lost both fights to Marquez. Then after Marquez in 2008, Pacquiao NEVER faced a top 3 fighter, and its now 2011 going into 2012.

That's the difference Hugh Grant.

One boxer fights the best in any division he's competing in.

The other looks for catchweight matches, vacant title bouts and gets knocked out.

Morales beat Pacquiao and then got dominated by Zahir Raheem. Pacquiao chose to fight against the loser and avoided the winner.

Mayweather fights winners(except in the case of Judah) and champions.

Pacquiao actually targets losers and banned fighters as opponents.

And let us not forget that Pacquiao's last 6 opponents were ALL coming off the biggest losses of their careers. Then they had a tune up against a club fighter or 2 and then they lost to Pacquiao as if they were ever back on top.

Mayweather's last 2 opponents were the #1 and #2 WW champions of the world.

Pacquiao's last 2 opponents were Mosley after Floyd dominated him and he got a draw against Mora ... and Margarito who actually banned for cheating during his match wirh Pacquiao!

Don't pretend to be serious with me, peasant. You are not a serious man. You cling to bedtime stories and dream of a day when your favorite peasant will legitimately win against a top fighter without having to manipulate weight or wait for them to be coming off of a loss.

Next you'll be talking about writer awards that Manny had GIVEN to him, but didn't earn. Boxers EARN in the ring, not at the podiums and press conferences.

Pacquiao's best opposition was Marquez and we saw how those matches went. We know that both Barrera and Morales avoided him for years.

All of Pacquiao other wins came over club fighters, dehydrated losers and banned fighters.

Check his record. You'll see that there is no mistake in what I've written.

Probably one of the dumbest posts I've ever read on this board.

Floyd fights the #1 or #2 in every division? Are you crazy? He RETIRED rather than fight Cotto or Margarito, who were at the time the top 2 names in the welterweight division. He moved up from jr-welterweight, when he could've fought Tszyu (division's no.1), to fight a blown-up jr-welterweight Tszyu victim in his first fight at welterweight (Sharmba Mitchell)!

He has also continued to avoid the CURRENT no. 1 welterweight in the world, Manny Pacquiao.

You take such glee in pointing out 'Pacquiao's best opposition was Marquez and we saw how those matches went', but by the same token we can say Floyd's best opposition was Castillo, in 2002, and 'we saw how that match went' (very dubious decision for Floyd). Your refusal to give credit to Pac for destroying Barrera, at the time one of the very top pound for pound fighters in the world, and Morales (twice) shows a blatant bias on your part.

Pacquiao's last 6 opponents were all coming off bad losses followed by a tune up?

I guess you'd count Clottey, a big, powerful welterweight former titlist, as a 'tune-up' for Cotto? I suppose you'd count Malignaggi as a 'tune up' for Hatton? (And Hatton looked the best he'd ever looked in that fight; only Mayweather acolytes and blatant Pacquiao haters would dispute this)

Your bias is clear as day. It's pathetic.

[Kilrain]

What seems to be beyond your comprehension Hugh Grant, is that Pacquiao targets names, not top talent.

Floyd has spent the last 14 years fighting the #1 & #2 in each division he's competed in. The only instance where he didn't face the #1 in a division was when Kostya Tszyu demanded a 60-40 split and would budge.

Pacquiao padded his record with his first 40 fights in southeast Asia. While he was avoiding real competition, he was knocked out twice by journeymen. He's been outboxed by a brawler in Erik Morales, and he in most minds lost both fights to Marquez. Then after Marquez in 2008, Pacquiao NEVER faced a top 3 fighter, and its now 2011 going into 2012.

That's the difference Hugh Grant.

One boxer fights the best in any division he's competing in.

The other looks for catchweight matches, vacant title bouts and gets knocked out.

Morales beat Pacquiao and then got dominated by Zahir Raheem. Pacquiao chose to fight against the loser and avoided the winner.

Mayweather fights winners(except in the case of Judah) and champions.

Pacquiao actually targets losers and banned fighters as opponents.

And let us not forget that Pacquiao's last 6 opponents were ALL coming off the biggest losses of their careers. Then they had a tune up against a club fighter or 2 and then they lost to Pacquiao as if they were ever back on top.

Mayweather's last 2 opponents were the #1 and #2 WW champions of the world.

Pacquiao's last 2 opponents were Mosley after Floyd dominated him and he got a draw against Mora ... and Margarito who actually banned for cheating during his match wirh Pacquiao!

Don't pretend to be serious with me, peasant. You are not a serious man. You cling to bedtime stories and dream of a day when your favorite peasant will legitimately win against a top fighter without having to manipulate weight or wait for them to be coming off of a loss.

Next you'll be talking about writer awards that Manny had GIVEN to him, but didn't earn. Boxers EARN in the ring, not at the podiums and press conferences.

Pacquiao's best opposition was Marquez and we saw how those matches went. We know that both Barrera and Morales avoided him for years.

All of Pacquiao other wins came over club fighters, dehydrated losers and banned fighters.

Check his record. You'll see that there is no mistake in what I've written.

Pac beat the p4p no1 or 2 in the world in barrera. Who did Floyd beat to be no1? Hernandez perhaps? Hernandez might have been the best in his division, but he wasnt p4p top 5 so who did Floyd beat to be no1 above Pac. Gatti, perhaps, maybe Manfredy? Again also tell me what great fighters sergio beat for years and years that made him no2 as well! Im going by your logic and your boasts dont seem to marry up with your own logic.
The Cotto pac beat would have beat anyone Floyd ever fought while im at it.

So what if Floyd beat grandad SSM. In hindsight SSM isnt that great so why should floyd get credit for beating SSM? Thats like trying to get a ***** to give Pac credit for beating DLH! DLH was a beast who was supposed to beat Pac like he was his daddy, but it didnt map out like people planned.
Im succint and to the point unlike you. Who is a salesman.......cowboy salesman that is trying to blind people with jargon.

Ignore ignorance, my friend. This guy can't be reasoned with.

[hugh grant]

Ignore ignorance, my friend. This guy can't be reasoned with.

True, this brother jay is quite the comedian and musician blowing his own *****et.
Then i have to gently bring him back down to earth.

[My Name Is...]

I guess Manny shouldnt fight all three, and just go ahead and fight another Top Rank fighter. Maybe the winner of Margarito vs Cotto?

[Brother Jay]

Pac beat the p4p no1 or 2 in the world in barrera. Who did Floyd beat to be no1? Hernandez perhaps? Hernandez might have been the best in his division, but he wasnt p4p top 5 so who did Floyd beat to be no1 above Pac. Gatti, perhaps, maybe Manfredy? Again also tell me what great fighters sergio beat for years and years that made him no2 as well! Im going by your logic and your boasts dont seem to marry up with your own logic.
The Cotto pac beat would have beat anyone Floyd ever fought while im at it.

So what if Floyd beat grandad SSM. In hindsight SSM isnt that great so why should floyd get credit for beating SSM? Thats like trying to get a ***** to give Pac credit for beating DLH! DLH was a beast who was supposed to beat Pac like he was his daddy, but it didnt map out like people planned.
Im succint and to the point unlike you. Who is a salesman.......cowboy salesman that is trying to blind people with jargon.

How was Barrera #1 P4P??? At what point? You must be smoking some of that good Asian opium.

Cotto won 1 fight against Mosley that put him into the top 3, then lost 6 months later. Same with Margarito. He won against Cotto and then got KO'd 8 months later.

Floyd beat every #1 ranked in every division WHILE THEY WERE STILL RANKED #1! Tszyu being the only exception.

When Floyd faced SSM, Shane was the #1WW after having knocked out Margarito who beat Cotto bloody. Shane was coming off of a huge win and had actually earned his #1 spot.

When Floyd faced Ortiz, Victor was the #2WW in the world after having beaten Berto. And guess what? Berto is already champion again at WW. Ortiz was coming off of a huge win and had actually earned his spot.

Pacquiao fought Barrera and Morales ... lost to Morales. Then dodges the man who had just beaten Morales: Zahir Raheem.

Pacquiao has NOT faced a first, second or third ranked boxer since 2008 when he fought Marquez.

There is no way he's a top boxer by fighting 5th ranked fighters. That's just the way it is. You don't jump to #1 by fighting 5th ranked boxers ... no matter how many 5th ranked fighters you face.