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    Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
    He countered Judah plenty of times in that fight.

    That fight was also FIVE YEARS AGO.

    Other than being southpaw with quick hands, they fight nothing alike.
    Five years ago, and Floyd reactions have slipped, as yourself has eluded to, also claiming this was Floyd's prime.

    The southpaw stance and quick hands are no little things, the whole point about countering is being able to react to the punch coming, the hand of your opponent will directly effect your ability to react.

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      Originally posted by Carpe Diem View Post
      WOW. Since when did Manny became such an elusive Boxer?
      To counter him, that is Manny throws Floyd avoids and then Floyd connects.

      It is Floyd's reactions and Manny's hand speed which will make difficult to counter.

      He will get a few in, but if he waits for Manny to throw, then Pacquiao will punish him with combos.

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        Originally posted by RichCCFC View Post
        Clottey lost every single round because he was too scared to throw in case he got countered.
        "****!...****!...****!...You wanna throw sometime?...****!"

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          Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
          Five years ago, and Floyd reactions have slipped, as yourself has eluded to, also claiming this was Floyd's prime.

          The southpaw stance and quick hands are no little things, the whole point about countering is being able to react to the punch coming, the hand of your opponent will directly effect your ability to react.
          They fight.... nothing alike.

          Style has more to do than any stance, speed, or power.

          The actions and reactions you take with you in the ring have a lot more to do with any physical attributes.

          And, even in the Judah fight... Floyd adjusted, as he does in any fight.

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            Let's get that fight May 2012.

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              Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
              They fight.... nothing alike.

              Style has more to do than any stance, speed, or power.

              The actions and reactions you take with you in the ring have a lot more to do with any physical attributes.

              And, even in the Judah fight... Floyd adjusted, as he does in any fight.
              Well Uncle Roger would disagree with you, the reason why Floyd had problems with Judah was his speed. And he adjusted by throwing first not letting Judah get off first and backing him up.

              I would like to see him try that against Manny. That why I said Floyd will be more aggressive and Pacquiao will love that, Judah doesn't Pacquiao does.

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                Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                Well Uncle Roger would disagree with you, the reason why Floyd had problems with Judah was his speed. And he adjusted by throwing first not letting Judah get off first and backing him up.

                I would like to see him try that against Manny. That why I said Floyd will be more aggressive and Pacquiao will love that, Judah doesn't Pacquiao does.
                Floyd had a competitive 3-4 rounds with Judah 5 years ago... that's it... so try not to hang your hat on that rock solid proof of what will happen in Mayweather-Pacquiao in 2012.

                And Floyd both countered, and got off first.. not just one or the other.

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                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                  To counter him, that is Manny throws Floyd avoids and then Floyd connects.

                  It is Floyd's reactions and Manny's hand speed which will make difficult to counter.

                  He will get a few in, but if he waits for Manny to throw, then Pacquiao will punish him with combos.

                  That's the pace that Floyd force you to fight at. Manny's reach is too short, and his timing isn't better than Floyd to gets his combos off without taking much damage in return. The only way Manny will get his combos going is if Floyd stand directly in close gap range in front of him. Floyd knows how to keep his distance, and limit his opponents punch reach range. Manny will have to lung in to set up his combos, and Floyd is one of the best at setting up traps against opponents who tends to be off balance.
                  Last edited by Carpe Diem; 09-21-2011, 02:06 PM.

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                    agreed larry, manny would get shutdown

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                      Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                      Floyd had a competitive 3-4 rounds with Judah 5 years ago... that's it... so try not to hang your hat on that rock solid proof of what will happen in Mayweather-Pacquiao in 2012.

                      And Floyd both countered, and got off first.. not just one or the other.
                      Why don't you just tell him floyd will use his right hand like Torrecampo and KO Manny. Just debate him at his level.

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