I can't see how Manny could get off against Floyd

[Johnwoo8686]

I can see Manny taking the first few rounds based of his activity alone but I believe May will walk away with the UD in the end. First, Manny's punch output significantly goes down when faced with an opponent he gives him any movement at all. Look at the Marquez fights and the Mosley fight, Manny has a lot of trouble cutting off the ring and seems hesitant to throw as many punches out of fear of being countered.

Fact is Manny has looked worse against counterpunchers than Mayweather has looked against southpaws. And yes they are the best at what they do but I believe Floyd is a better counter puncher than Manny is a southpaw.

[pnksntdead]

folks are quick to point out manny's trouble in catching clotteyand mosely but fail to acknowledge that both fighters literally gave up all efforts to win in order to just make to the final bell and save face, pretty much the same for cotto after the first few rounds. if clottey openned up more, he would have busted up manny more but he was also putting himself at the risk of getting ko'd, same with mosely. sure, they saved themselves from a beating and frustrated manny but they also sealed their fate as loser long before the end of the bout.

the real question is will floyd's accuracy, timing and power be enough to negative manny's aggression or will manny's output make floyd overly defensive and clam up like clottey.

to say that manny will breakdown or scare floyd based on his performances over cotto, clottey, mosely etc is as ridiculous as saying that floyd will pick apart manny like he did with ortiz, mosely etc. neither has faced any oppinent with the same caliber as the other at this time. for those who say that manny can't box and is one dimensional, how does a blown up lightweight thrive in the ww division without any boxing skills at all (*****s would say PEDS). if i had a gun to my head, i'd pick floyd in a close one.

[bojangles1987]

Both Ortiz and Mosley have bigger one punch power than Pac at WW. Pac's one punch knockout power is RIDICULOUSLY overrated. Outside of Hatton I really can't think of a one punch KO Pac has had in the last 5-6 years.

Who has Ortiz knocked out lately? Vivian Harris?

[F l i c k e r]

Nope.

With what I saw against Ortiz. If Mayweather fights like that, he loses plain and simple.

And Floyd isn't going to clinch and hug Pacquiao. In the process of doing that, he is going to get tagged 3-4 times with lasers. What Floyd will do is back up, go into his shoulder roll shell and try to deflect punches. Then when Pacquiao smothers himself, he will hook an arm or stick the elbow in his throat.


However, Pacquiao hasn't shown his normal idiot method of smothering himself lately. So I expect body punches when in that close proximity. Followed by uppercuts.

Key Punch: Left hook.

[bojangles1987]

Nope.

With what I saw against Ortiz. If Mayweather fights like that, he loses plain and simple.

And Floyd isn't going to clinch and hug Pacquiao. In the process of doing that, he is going to get tagged 3-4 times with lasers. What Floyd will do is back up, go into his shoulder roll shell and try to deflect punches. Then when Pacquiao smothers himself, he will hook an arm or stick the elbow in his throat.


However, Pacquiao hasn't shown his normal idiot method of smothering himself lately. So I expect body punches when in that close proximity. Followed by uppercuts.

Key Punch: Left hook.

I really think people who expect Floyd to be able to walk at Pacquiao and rough him up will be surprised if Floyd fought that way, because Pacquiao is not helpless going backwards. I'd pick Pacquiao without reservation in that scenario.

Floyd needs to take the Mosley approach to win this fight, because he's able to do the things Mosley couldn't.

[iPhoneKiller]

If on the ropes then I can see Pac getting off quite a bit. Pac hit Cotto with 6 or 7 shots in one combo and they were fairly accurate. Of coruse May has a better defense but to block those shots from Pac in such a short time with his speed and power, that's gonna be hard.

[bdevils]

bro pump your brakes!! did i say ortiz landed millions of shot against floyd? i said if floyd's pass opponents can land on him what makes u think manny cant? so do u agree or disagree that floyd has been getting hit a lot lately compare to 4-5 years ago? all im saying is if those other guys can get 1-2 punch in what makes u think manny wont be able to? i see manny doing better than floyd's pass opponents. u guys make it seem like floyd is invincible.

Your right I think Manny will do better...But @ the end of the day I just see Floyds accuracy and defense frustrating Manny and to much for him to overcome.

[Double_L]

Clotteys mindset has nothing to do with the point.

The point was... when he threw a right handed.. it landed.

Seemingly every time he threw it.

There was zero defense for it.

Clotteys lack of balls is another story.

When you throw an average of 100 punches a round, it leaves you very open to any type of punch. Pac wanted to entertain the fans and traded defense for pure offense.

I don't think you can use that fight as a good measuring stick for how poorly Pac deals with straight right hands. If anything you wanna look at the second Marquez fight, though he has supposedly improved his D since then...

[Carpe Diem]

[D4thincarnation]

The guy doesn't know what he is talking about. Pacquiao caught Mosley numerous times and Mosley lost every round. You move to the left, you walk on to Pacquaio right hook, which Pacquiao caught him with more than a few times.

Pacquiao also and success with the straight left up the middle.


And circling away from the power hand is no magic bullet or some secret technique, it is common sense.

And if you want to watch a top fighter do this against Pacquiao watch the 2nd Barrera fight, though Pacquiao right hand is not what it is now, giving MAB greater success with that technique.