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    Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
    Well it would go without saying, the more you throw the more your open for counters... I think it's safe to say, Floyd is quicker and has better timing than Clottey. I'd also like to think if Clottey can do that type of damage with the few amount of punches he landed... if Floyd lands a lot more, you would have to take into heavy consideration the amount of damage Pacquiao will incur.
    Joshua Clottey isn't a good counter-puncher to start.

    He isn't fast and timing isn't great either.

    He's a fighter he fights in spurts and waits for his opponent to finish his combination, then throws his combination, then re-sets. All whilst trying to walk you down.

    Something that would never ever ever work against Manny Pacquaio.

    Utterly different to Floyd Mayweather though I mean there is literally no comparison.

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      Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
      Well it would go without saying, the more you throw the more your open for counters... I think it's safe to say, Floyd is quicker and has better timing than Clottey. I'd also like to think if Clottey can do that type of damage with the few amount of punches he landed... if Floyd lands a lot more, you would have to take into heavy consideration the amount of damage Pacquiao will incur.
      the cuts and bruises can be accounted for the glove types
      more than likely floyd will be wearing grants

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        Some may see the Ortiz fight as proving Manny can't get off, but I see it as proof that he can. Ortiz was close several times, and even landed a good amount of times too. He showed you that Floyd can be hit in exchanges. Manny is not only faster than Vic, but he's more intelligent too.

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          Originally posted by S.G. View Post
          I think to cause Mayweather trouble you have to bully him; Pacquiao won't, and can't, do that. He likes to have a bit of room to work, which plays into Floyd's hands because he's a master of placing you at the range he wants you at. I don't see Manny being able to overcome that.
          Yeah he only bullied Mosley, Marg and Cotto.

          Manny is great a judging the range and is far more mobile than Floyd, his in and out footwork will cause trouble.

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            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
            Joshua Clottey isn't a good counter-puncher to start.

            He isn't fast and timing isn't great either.

            He's a fighter he fights in spurts and waits for his opponent to finish his combination, then throws his combination, then re-sets. All whilst trying to walk you down.

            Something that would never ever ever work against Manny Pacquaio.

            Utterly different to Floyd Mayweather though I mean there is literally no comparison.
            I never once said Clottey is a counter puncher.

            He actually has zero counter punching ability as far as I'm concerned. He's offense or defense fighter.

            I said Floyd is quicker and has better timing on placement of punches.

            And, the single, and only reason I used Clottey.. was because his success of landing the straight right hand on Manny was excellent.. something Floyd will take to the next level.

            It doesn't appear you read from the beginning of where I started mentioning Clottey.

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              Anyone else notice how Floyd was lunging with the right against Ortiz, his chin very exposed to the left hook over the top. Seemed a lot more open that usual.

              Very difficult punch to time, but if any can Manny can.

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                Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                Yes one punch Pacquiao has to worry about, but keeping his left up stepping to the right takes it out of play. But Roach will want to counter that and set traps for Floyd.

                His left will be taken out of play, the jab Manny will block or counter and if Floyd get brave and decided to throw the left hook, then a right hook right roll under will be coming up.


                You really need to quit.

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                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                  Yeah he only bullied Mosley, Marg and Cotto.

                  Manny is great a judging the range and is far more mobile than Floyd, his in and out footwork will cause trouble.
                  Not even in the same realm of fighter. All 3 of those fighters are easier to bully because you can hit them ... all of them... whenever you want.

                  If you can do it enough, which Manny could, then you can bully them.

                  If you land one flush punch on Floyd it's a big deal because it barely ever happens.

                  Also, getting Floyd on the ropes is not bullying... not if you're ineffective.

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                    Originally posted by Larryx2011 View Post
                    get real man,Floyds to good and to smart for that.
                    well old mosley almost got him out in 2 larold.
                    its not that far fetched man
                    im pretty sure manny is faster and hits harder than shane does now

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                      Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
                      I agree Pacquiao isn't a 1 punch knockout fighter at welterweight, but who has Ortiz knocked out to make you think he is?
                      Both Ortiz and Mosley have bigger one punch power than Pac at WW. Pac's one punch knockout power is RIDICULOUSLY overrated. Outside of Hatton I really can't think of a one punch KO Pac has had in the last 5-6 years.

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