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    #81
    Ortiz beats Berto.

    All of a sudden he can beat anybody now.

    This site is becoming a banana site where kids say
    the darnedest thing to suit their agenda.

    Ortiz can probably beat King Kong now.

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      #82
      Plasterless post Mosley Cheatto can't harm a fly. Let post mosley cheatto get a win against some decent opposition before you make this thread.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
        Is that a yes or a no?
        yes I would be saying the exact same thing. If I had this opinion prior to and just after the Berto fight, why wouldn't I think the same thing right now.

        I have stated the same thing over and over again (Margarito vs Ortiz) so I really don't see what Manny has to do with this.

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          #84
          margarito hasnt loooked good recently and ortiz is showing signs of much improvement


          i think i would go wit ortiz at this point in time

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            #85
            Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
            yes I would be saying the exact same thing. If I had this opinion prior to and just after the Berto fight, why wouldn't I think the same thing right now.

            I have stated the same thing over and over again (Margarito vs Ortiz) so I really don't see what Manny has to do with this.
            Just checking. IMO, Margarito's rep is based more on floyd leaving top rank and not fighting him then his actual performance in the ring. Iremind everyone of the losses to Daniel Santos and Paul Willimas. Huge upsets that should define Margarito more than "floyd didn't fight him"

            Further, his beating of Cotto, the upset loss in devastating fashion to Mosley after getting caught cheating (which IMO mitigates the cotto win signifcantly) and the PAc loss suggest Marg is not going to defeat strong competition.

            I mean his best win other than cotto is who, Cintron? Thats why I find it hard to say he would beat another top welterweight.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Boxingtech718v2 View Post
              Plasterless post Mosley Cheatto can't harm a fly. Let post mosley cheatto get a win against some decent opposition before you make this thread.
              This, close thread!

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                #87
                ortiz beats this version of margo by ko

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                  Just checking. IMO, Margarito's rep is based more on floyd leaving top rank and not fighting him then his actual performance in the ring. Iremind everyone of the losses to Daniel Santos and Paul Willimas. Huge upsets that should define Margarito more than "floyd didn't fight him"

                  Further, his beating of Cotto, the upset loss in devastating fashion to Mosley after getting caught cheating (which IMO mitigates the cotto win signifcantly) and the PAc loss suggest Marg is not going to defeat strong competition.

                  I mean his best win other than cotto is who, Cintron? Thats why I find it hard to say he would beat another top welterweight.
                  That's what I'm saying who has Cheatto beat besides Cotto? Plus that was plasteritto not toothless shot post Mosley cheatto.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
                    minus the power argurement, you can say Calderon had those same advantages over Segura but we all say how that turned out.
                    Pretty much, I mean these kids forgot how relentless Marg is/was. Also, Ortiz moved UP to 147lbs, Marg is now a lagit 154lber.

                    It wouldn't be an easy fight for Ortiz and I don't think that's a fight Ortiz' people would ever agree to.

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                      #90
                      This poll is tighter than i thought. Good to see people still have faith in Tony.

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