If Ward can't hurt Froch, can he Dirrell him?

[SCtrojansbaby]

Ward will muscle Froch around on the inside

[IronDanHamza]

And a LMAO at comparing Froch's chin to Ortiz's

Froch has an excellent chin. Even the times he's been buzzed (and yes, this happened against Taylor, Dirrell, and to a lesser extent AA/Kessler/Glen), he's recovered so ridiculously quick that the other fighter hasn't had a chance to capitalise.

Margs and Baldo were huge for their weight class, and weren't being hit by world class 168ers fight after fight. Walking through punches at 147 is way different to get hit at SMW, even Andrade's chin cracked.

I highlighted that earlier.

That is one of the things that impresses me most about Froch.

His recovery rate is incredible. He can get hit by an huge, solid shot and after a split second he is fine and firing back.

[sdcluser]

Not true at all.

Kessler is a better all round fighter than Carl Froch and it showed in thier fight.

Prime Kessler has a better jab, footwork, boxing skills, technique and is much harder to hit than Froch is along with a heart to match him. Which alot of Froch's oppoents lack in that area. Atleast to the level Froch has.

Which is why I was more than conifdent Kessler would beat Froch and if the exact same version remains from his layoff I am more than confident he will do in a rematch. Kessler won that fight no matter how much Froch *****es and moans.

Agree. Kessler can throw combo much better a few years ago with MORE aggression. Froch will lose to Ward.

[IronDanHamza]

Agree. Kessler can throw combo much better a few years ago with MORE aggression. Froch will lose to Ward.

Absolutely.

People think Froch has lots of dimensions because he boxed well in his last fight which is pretty much THE lone time he has done that with that much success.

I have followed his whole career up to now and Carl Froch fighting like that is not a regular occurance.

Kessler most definitely has more dimensions than Carl Froch has.

[Walt Liquor]

Not true at all.

Kessler is a better all round fighter than Carl Froch and it showed in thier fight.

Prime Kessler has a better jab, footwork, boxing skills, technique and is much harder to hit than Froch is along with a heart to match him. Which alot of Froch's oppoents lack in that area. Atleast to the level Froch has.

Which is why I was more than conifdent Kessler would beat Froch and if the exact same version remains from his layoff I am more than confident he will do in a rematch. Kessler won that fight no matter how much Froch *****es and moans.

Kessler was not prime vs ward AND he has little to no inside game.


Froch has improved quite a bit due to the styles and high caliber of fighter he's been fighting. Ward's only faced one dimensional guys like bika, Miranda, green, Abraham. C'mon, kessler is one dimensional too. He made zero adjustments ve jocal and ward. I think you're wrong.

Froch has had a much more difficult road facing dirrell, gj, and dirrell. NO ONe has decisively beaten froch. Ward wont either, he's overrated.

If ward does manage to put it on froch, I will he a believer big time.

[Walt Liquor]

Absolutely.

People think Froch has lots of dimensions because he boxed well in his last fight which is pretty much THE lone time he has done that with that much success.

I have followed his whole career up to now and Carl Froch fighting like that is not a regular occurance.

Kessler most definitely has more dimensions than Carl Froch has.

It's more than one fight Dan. He boxed well tonite. Ward boxed from the outside ONE time in the smw tourney, vs Abe. Same as froch.

[realheavyhands]

**** froch..first time i saw him fight and i was very disappointed i mean he barely landed any clean shots and johnson landed vicious right hands all night just vicious knock out punches.. and the sports casters say what a chin .. wtf if you getting hit with vicious shots all night and dont land **** on johnson .. but 1 or 2 shots .. how do you win for having a chin lmfao.. all flash blocked punches .. boxing is becoming rediculous.. i think they shout fight until someone wins no more decisions..
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[IronDanHamza]

Kessler was not prime vs ward AND he has little to no inside game.

He was pretty damn close.

Neither has Froch really.

Froch has improved quite a bit due to the styles and high caliber of fighter he's been fighting.

He genuinely hasn't improved.

Ward's only faced one dimensional guys like bika, Miranda, green, Abraham.

Carl Froch isn't much different.

C'mon, kessler is one dimensional too. He made zero adjustments ve jocal and ward. I think you're wrong.

He doesn't have many dimensions but he certainly has more than Carl Froch does.

Froch has had a much more difficult road facing dirrell, gj, and dirrell. NO ONe has decisively beaten froch. Ward wont either, he's overrated.

Dirrell, a fight I felt he lost and he didn't look good at all in and Glen Johnson is hardley the toughest fight in the world.

Good wins? Absolutely.

Tougher road than Ward? Absolutely.

But let's not act like Ward hasn't soudnly beaten Kessler and Abraham on his way to the final which are both excellent wins.

If ward does manage to put it on froch, I will he a believer big time.

Fair enough.

But in all honesty beating the man who beat Froch in impressive fashion and beating argubally the best win on Froch's resume in decisive fashion is more than enough to make me a believer.

[ATG Fighter]

Ward outboxes him. His footspeed/footwork is far superior to Froch. He will use a lot of movement and keep Froch off balance. His handspeed is also much better. He doesn't have a lot of power so he will have to survive the distance but he can do it because he is very well conditioned. I don't think he has a great right hand which Froch gets tagged by regularly, but he should still be able to get the job done.

[IronDanHamza]

It's more than one fight Dan. He boxed well tonite. Ward boxed from the outside ONE time in the smw tourney, vs Abe. Same as froch.

He boxed Ok tonight. I personally felt it was drastically closer than the 2 judges had it.

Let's not compare Froch's ability on the outside to Ward's. Utterly no comparison.

Froch was being soundly beaten on the outside by Taylor as he was by Dirrell. He made those fights his by taking the fight to them. Johnson had his moments also.

Ward has never been beaten on the outside in his entire career.