Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[BlackHat]

OK... and for someone who landed 200 punches, what damage did Pac do to Bradley?

I think if Pac was swelling/cutting Bradley, or snapping Tim's head around, Manny's offense would look more convincing.

I had it a MUCH closer fight than the HBArum commentators had it. Not as wide as Brian Kenny (he had it 116-112 Bradley). But I'm fine with a draw.

Tim sweeping the championship rounds is a VERY reasonable scorecard.

The question is what damage did Bradley did to Pac?

[hugh grant]

bradley wernt swollen and battered looking like most of pacs victims cos he was backpeddling and a lot of the sting was taken out of the punches.

Back peddling your less likely to be hit withpunches you dont see as well.

[Luilun]

Well what can I say, This was Pacquaio's first attempt in many years fighting a Young Strong Champion in the Prime of his career without a ****** catchweight. Result for Pacquiao = Fail and a loss on his record. So, I am still not impressed with Pacquiao.

I’m saying Bradley won the fight, but he definitely fought every minute of every round in this fight. I can’t say that for Pacquiao. Pacquiao literally fought for 14 minutes in this fight, maximum 18. Bradley fought the entire fight for 36 minutes with a bad ankle.

People we have to realize that Vegas judges are a weird lot. They score fights very different in Vegas. Vegas judges are not star struck and they don’t take their cues from the crowd or the extremely bias HBO crew.

Think back to De La Hoya vs.Trinidad. I had Oscar winning that fight easy based on what my eyes saw. But down the stretch he took off some rounds and the Vegas Judges awarded the fight to Trinidad for consistently applying pressure the entire fight and for fighting the entire fight.

When you fight in Vegas you can’t assume just because you think you are winning that your are actually winning on the cards. Vegas judges have their own way of scoring fights. They also look for who is making the fight, who is applying the pressure and who is applying effective aggression.

Manny fought this fight just how Freddy roach taught him how to fight, well how to lose a fight. I saw the exact same thing in the Amir Khan fight against Peterson. Peterson fought the entire fight and Khan fought is spurts and then in the last 30 seconds he would try to steal the round. Well we all know the the results of that endeavour. This is exactly what Pacquiao did in this fight with Bradley.

Pacquiao looked like Amir Khan to me in this fight, he looked very amateurish. Wild punches, not going to the body at all and his punch variety was totally non-existent. Where was that right hand we keep hearing that Pacquiao has now, where was the uppercut?

Freddie Roach has not taught Pacquiao anything. Pacquiao is still the same fighter he was 10 years ago. Defensively Pacquiao is poor and offensively he is very limited. Pacquiao is still a one-handed fighter.

Athletically, Pacquiao is slowing down and he has not knocked anyone out in a long time. A aging fighter who relies on his athleticism instead of his boxing skills will get exposed when their athletic prowess starts to decline. Can anybody say “Roy Jones”?

Bradley in round 8 -12 , starting boxing the brakes off Pacquiao. Yes, Bradley was still getting hit with left hand from Pacquiao, but he was boxing beautifully. Bradley at this point had solved the Pacquiao puzzle, Bradley had cracked the PACMAN code.

Again do I think Bradley won this fight, “NO I DON”T”. I think Pacquiao LOST this fight because he did not fight the entire fight and he was one dimensional. Also, being a “DIVA” before the fight did not exactly ingratiate him with the Vegas Judges.


Pacquiao only looks good against slow aging fighters that are past their prime and weight drained. That is just a fact that we ALL have to deal with. A fighter with good boxing skills will always give Pacquiao problems and they have.

Freddie Roach and Bob Arum are very skilled matchmakers. But I fear they are starting to overestimate their own creation that is Pacquiao. They better go back to fighting slow and old face first brawlers or Pacquiao will get further exposed.

Pacquiao is not that Good and he is not that Great, but I love watching him fight.

Get some glasses Pac 11 rounds bradley 1 round only simple minded people think Bradley won

[viperz007]

Uh, no, it's called boxing. He basically had Manny in a trance, either by backing up or circling to Manny's right. You all got so used to seeing people in the ring with Manny basically walking forward all fight long. Bradley didn't do that, so he was running for his life? That's garbage and I'd truly hope you'd know that. Bradley was trying to get openings to attack and by doing that, cut down Manny's workrate a ton.

dude backing up while landing nothing is not controlling its called retreating

and how did his avoiding mannys left hand work for him while his in controll as u say?
LMAO

[Evil Abed]

A you ******? Jabs to the arm don't land and you counted Pacquiao's combinations as one punch. That wasn't a close round

Lol. A he is not.

[-DSG-]

bradley won the fight!!! dont believe the hbo hype the judges have the best seat in the house they did a good job!

[jtiger777]

lol at this whole slick african american argument, does this make u all feel better or something

[crold1]

I don't know. Will finish watching the rest of the fight when I get home. But yeah, Pac did some things that impressed me--he was very crafty in there. Unfortunately, when you show your experience you often show your age as well. Thought that happened here.

Maybe but I didn't see age. I think Pac took some time to figure him out and when Bradley didn't go early he just kept spot fighting him. He looked sharper than he has in over a year. The fight was a little like McCallum-Toney II where one guy had big bursts later in the rounds he won. I don't think it was age as much as maybe Manny showing too much respect. Still gave him eight rounds here. Could also be the judges have had so much heat lately they freaked and didn't want to blow a big one against the 'dog.

If they rematch, he needs to come in closer to 140 and go for it.

[any craic lad?]

Just watched the end off the fight on HBO just too hear their comments and seen Arum after the decision seeming to be pretty happy with Timmy now i know he is also his promoter but for a man who is supposed to be looking to get a review into the decision that was strange

[Gino Ros]

Well im not sure Pac had any real trouble with Bradley with Bradleys good footwork as Pac won comfortably in most peoples eyes worth their salt. Pac does find it easier with people who engage him, but he is also prepared for any eventuality.

Bradleys good footwork prevented himself getting diaz or hatooned, but you still got to fire back with things that arent just pitter patter. Punches landed on pacs guard shouldnt be scored, like they obviously were for Brad.

Bradley didn't move NEARLY as well as he wanted because his foot was legitimately injured.:



This isn't a #toe situation. This was a real foot injury.


Hugh, May I ask why Pac wasn't able to catch up with an ancient Shane Mosley?